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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting. I can write my thoughts out clearly, but I have such a difficult time expressing what I think to others that half the time my words are gibberish.

Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;ve been reading a lot of books.

But, when I was a lot younger.... agh, I can barely remember my experiences in school. I want to share with this, I think I went through the same obstacles as your son when I was in Elementary school, but I can&#039;t explain it....

But this is a very inspiring article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I can write my thoughts out clearly, but I have such a difficult time expressing what I think to others that half the time my words are gibberish.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;ve been reading a lot of books.</p>
<p>But, when I was a lot younger&#8230;. agh, I can barely remember my experiences in school. I want to share with this, I think I went through the same obstacles as your son when I was in Elementary school, but I can&#8217;t explain it&#8230;.</p>
<p>But this is a very inspiring article!</p>
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		<title>By: xanthippa</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 02:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Stephen!

I do not have a book out - nor anything that fancy.  However, I have tried to isolate my &#039;Aspergers&#039; stuff in a dedicated &lt;a href=&quot;http://xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spot&lt;/a&gt;.

If you have any specific questions, please, do send them on to me:  chances are that if we can work out some productive answers, they can be of help to many people out there!

One day, when I manage to get organized enough, I would like to put it all into a website format - so that it can be a resource to teachers.  Knowing what the best and most useful way to organize it - so that teachers would be able to use it - that would be most welcome feedback!!!  So, any comments you can send my way, I will appreciate!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen!</p>
<p>I do not have a book out &#8211; nor anything that fancy.  However, I have tried to isolate my &#8216;Aspergers&#8217; stuff in a dedicated <a href="http://xanthippaonaspergers.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">spot</a>.</p>
<p>If you have any specific questions, please, do send them on to me:  chances are that if we can work out some productive answers, they can be of help to many people out there!</p>
<p>One day, when I manage to get organized enough, I would like to put it all into a website format &#8211; so that it can be a resource to teachers.  Knowing what the best and most useful way to organize it &#8211; so that teachers would be able to use it &#8211; that would be most welcome feedback!!!  So, any comments you can send my way, I will appreciate!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen D. Hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen D. Hurley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Xanthippa:

Are you on Facebook? Do you have a book out? These blogs are really helping me prepare to teach writing to my aspie students.

Thank You,
Stephen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Xanthippa:</p>
<p>Are you on Facebook? Do you have a book out? These blogs are really helping me prepare to teach writing to my aspie students.</p>
<p>Thank You,<br />
Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Xanthippa

I have read your blogs with great interest as I work with Aspergers Syndrome students at a university and agree they all have different problems.  I have one student I am hopeful you can give me some advice on. His problem is writing for assignments.  He is able to sit at the computer and write about any subject I ask him to like discuss the good and bad things about his car, what is some thing that made him laugh, discuss the good and bad features of the last computer game he played. He wrote pages on these subjects in about an hour.  When I asked him to write his thoughts on his assignment question he could not write one word, no prompting from me helped. He told me he could tell me the answer but could not bring himself to write it down. He told me he did not understand what was going on in his head. I would greatly appreciate any help you can give.

Thank you

Bernard.

&lt;em&gt;Xanthippa says:
Hi Bernard!

I know EXACTLY what you are describing.

Not only have I seen it in others, I have often experienced it myself.

And, while I do not know exactly what IS going on, I can confirm that it is a reality and perhaps offer you a few guesses...

In MY experience,  it has to do with &#039;importance&#039;, or how much something &#039;matters&#039;.

Writing about something you like, but which is just &#039;personal stuff&#039; (car problems, games, etc.) can be much easier because it is a &#039;light&#039; subject ;matter.

An &#039;assignment question&#039; is &#039;serious stuff&#039;.

It&#039;s like a block pops up and the self-censoring thing - on a completely sub-conscious, not controllable  level - puts up a block.

I experience it ALL THE TIME.

Some days, when I want to write a post about really important stuff, I can&#039;t seem to be able to write it up.  It took me 10 months(!) to write up a post about &#039;reasonable expectations&#039; of an Aspie student....and even then I didn&#039;t get it &#039;right&#039;!

Knowing more and more people rely on my advice about Aspies is pretty much paralyzing me when I try to write a post up about it.  What if I steer them wrong?  What if I word it poorly and people will not understand?  What if i make it worse?  What if people read it?

But, when I am answering a comment, I don&#039;t expect a lot of people (except the one who asked it, perhaps one or two others) to be reading it and so it makes it less &#039;risky&#039; to type up the answer - and it flows pretty much effortlessly!

Perhaps it is a weak parallel - but I do think it is a parallel...

Plus, here, I am writing it up as if it were a conversation - not as if I am making a formal presentation.  That makes it much easier...

Strategies (which work for me - and are hopefully portable):
1.  Talk about it (or, in my case, type it the comments) as if you were having a conversation.  Record that conversation.  Either by using a recording device, or by typing as you speak, or by having someone else write or type up your words as you speak them.  
2.  Take a lot of caffeine - it DOES work a little bit like ADD/ADHD meds do in lowering the &#039;barriers&#039;.  Avoid sugar/sweeteners - they minimize the function of the caffeine.  (Yes, this is self-medicating....but, at least, caffeine is not a narcotic or anything...)
3.  Put the &#039;words you spoke&#039; into a word-processing file, version 1
4.  Re-organize the sections into the proper order for whatever format you require them to be in.
5.  Edit the words to form paragraphs in the proper format.

(I sometimes answer the comment, then copy and paste it and re-work it into a post of its own.  When helping my kids, I&#039;d let them talk and transcribe what they said, type the words (approximately - I could not transcribe fast enough to get everything) into a word-processing file and let them edit it into the format they needed their answer to be in for school.)

Alternately:
Sometimes, it helps to talk it through back and for - with another person as a sounding  board, but in a pinch, with one-self.  This helps clarify the importance of the various points, perhaps even the language which is most effective in expressing it, what comes &#039;out&#039; clumsily and needs to be &#039;tidied-up&#039;, etc.

As one is speaking, jot down the &#039;big&#039; points as they are being spoken...just as a word or two of a reminder.  Then, &#039;saying&#039;  the answer out loud, take the set of &#039;big points&#039; as they were jotted down and build from them the answer. 

This is much harder and gets worse results, but, it is a method that most teachers will permit in high-school and so on, so it may be a starting point....

Again, each Aspie is different, each one will need to build a set of strategies which capitalize on their individual strength.  Yet, being stronger verbally than in writing seems a big part of the pattern for many of us.

Therefore, building a methodology that uses the strong verbal skill, records the &#039;spoken word&#039; in some format, then edits it to fit the required written format might be a set of skills we may indeed be worth the investment!

I hope this helps.  Please, do let me know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Xanthippa</p>
<p>I have read your blogs with great interest as I work with Aspergers Syndrome students at a university and agree they all have different problems.  I have one student I am hopeful you can give me some advice on. His problem is writing for assignments.  He is able to sit at the computer and write about any subject I ask him to like discuss the good and bad things about his car, what is some thing that made him laugh, discuss the good and bad features of the last computer game he played. He wrote pages on these subjects in about an hour.  When I asked him to write his thoughts on his assignment question he could not write one word, no prompting from me helped. He told me he could tell me the answer but could not bring himself to write it down. He told me he did not understand what was going on in his head. I would greatly appreciate any help you can give.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>Bernard.</p>
<p><em>Xanthippa says:<br />
Hi Bernard!</p>
<p>I know EXACTLY what you are describing.</p>
<p>Not only have I seen it in others, I have often experienced it myself.</p>
<p>And, while I do not know exactly what IS going on, I can confirm that it is a reality and perhaps offer you a few guesses&#8230;</p>
<p>In MY experience,  it has to do with &#8216;importance&#8217;, or how much something &#8216;matters&#8217;.</p>
<p>Writing about something you like, but which is just &#8216;personal stuff&#8217; (car problems, games, etc.) can be much easier because it is a &#8216;light&#8217; subject ;matter.</p>
<p>An &#8216;assignment question&#8217; is &#8216;serious stuff&#8217;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a block pops up and the self-censoring thing &#8211; on a completely sub-conscious, not controllable  level &#8211; puts up a block.</p>
<p>I experience it ALL THE TIME.</p>
<p>Some days, when I want to write a post about really important stuff, I can&#8217;t seem to be able to write it up.  It took me 10 months(!) to write up a post about &#8216;reasonable expectations&#8217; of an Aspie student&#8230;.and even then I didn&#8217;t get it &#8216;right&#8217;!</p>
<p>Knowing more and more people rely on my advice about Aspies is pretty much paralyzing me when I try to write a post up about it.  What if I steer them wrong?  What if I word it poorly and people will not understand?  What if i make it worse?  What if people read it?</p>
<p>But, when I am answering a comment, I don&#8217;t expect a lot of people (except the one who asked it, perhaps one or two others) to be reading it and so it makes it less &#8216;risky&#8217; to type up the answer &#8211; and it flows pretty much effortlessly!</p>
<p>Perhaps it is a weak parallel &#8211; but I do think it is a parallel&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus, here, I am writing it up as if it were a conversation &#8211; not as if I am making a formal presentation.  That makes it much easier&#8230;</p>
<p>Strategies (which work for me &#8211; and are hopefully portable):<br />
1.  Talk about it (or, in my case, type it the comments) as if you were having a conversation.  Record that conversation.  Either by using a recording device, or by typing as you speak, or by having someone else write or type up your words as you speak them.<br />
2.  Take a lot of caffeine &#8211; it DOES work a little bit like ADD/ADHD meds do in lowering the &#8216;barriers&#8217;.  Avoid sugar/sweeteners &#8211; they minimize the function of the caffeine.  (Yes, this is self-medicating&#8230;.but, at least, caffeine is not a narcotic or anything&#8230;)<br />
3.  Put the &#8216;words you spoke&#8217; into a word-processing file, version 1<br />
4.  Re-organize the sections into the proper order for whatever format you require them to be in.<br />
5.  Edit the words to form paragraphs in the proper format.</p>
<p>(I sometimes answer the comment, then copy and paste it and re-work it into a post of its own.  When helping my kids, I&#8217;d let them talk and transcribe what they said, type the words (approximately &#8211; I could not transcribe fast enough to get everything) into a word-processing file and let them edit it into the format they needed their answer to be in for school.)</p>
<p>Alternately:<br />
Sometimes, it helps to talk it through back and for &#8211; with another person as a sounding  board, but in a pinch, with one-self.  This helps clarify the importance of the various points, perhaps even the language which is most effective in expressing it, what comes &#8216;out&#8217; clumsily and needs to be &#8216;tidied-up&#8217;, etc.</p>
<p>As one is speaking, jot down the &#8216;big&#8217; points as they are being spoken&#8230;just as a word or two of a reminder.  Then, &#8216;saying&#8217;  the answer out loud, take the set of &#8216;big points&#8217; as they were jotted down and build from them the answer. </p>
<p>This is much harder and gets worse results, but, it is a method that most teachers will permit in high-school and so on, so it may be a starting point&#8230;.</p>
<p>Again, each Aspie is different, each one will need to build a set of strategies which capitalize on their individual strength.  Yet, being stronger verbally than in writing seems a big part of the pattern for many of us.</p>
<p>Therefore, building a methodology that uses the strong verbal skill, records the &#8216;spoken word&#8217; in some format, then edits it to fit the required written format might be a set of skills we may indeed be worth the investment!</p>
<p>I hope this helps.  Please, do let me know!</em></p>
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