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		<title>By: xanthippa</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2008/11/19/the-medias-perception-of-themselves/#comment-536</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Here is a comment I received by email from the radio-host I mentioned in my post.  (Since he had not posted the comment here, I am doing a straight &#039;copy and paste&#039; from the email itself, nothing added or taken away.)

I do agree that at calm times, he does qualify his &#039;wrath&#039; - but leading up to the election, he perceived the conditions he lists as (a), (b) and (c) where they did not exist and as the &#039;pitch&#039; heated up, he did drop any allusion to them altogether....perhaps he got a little frustrated.  If he were to listen to some of the recordings of his show from those days, perhaps he would see that he did not follow his own rules, as he clearly thinks that he did.
Xanthippa&lt;/em&gt;


Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that, and I think it&#039;s great that you&#039;re discussing this issue. I want to clarify a couple of points which you misrepresent in your comments about me, however.
 
I have never said there is no bias in the media. In fact, I have said that all human beings are biased and that includes everyone in the media. I acknowledge that individual members of the media are biased and that the majority of them are biased toward the left. I have said this on the air several times. So when you say that I say &quot;there is no such thing&quot; this is factually wrong.
 
When I disagree with callers, it is because they have raised the argument either that (a) there is an organized and deliberate attempt by media owners to produce a particular outcome (for example, in an election), (b) that the entire media, without exception is biased in one direction, or (c) that outcomes occur entirely or principally because of media bias.
 
My response to these arguments is always the same, and as you point out I speak as someone with more than 20 years of experience in the media, sometimes in senior management, and much of it with some of Canada&#039;s largest media corporations. First, the national media in Canada does not conspire to elect a particular party or cause the defeat of a particular party. Second, the leaders of media companies do not provide instructions to editors, reporters and broadcasters on a daily basis on how to spin the news to the benefit of a particular party. Third, there is clearly a broad range of voices available to consumers of media in Canada, including strong conservative columnists and talk-show hosts and a national newspaper with a conservative viewpoint. Fourth, while many people argue that the media in Canada opposes the Conservative party, almost every newspaper in the country endorsed them in the last election and almost as many in the previous election. And finally, there are plenty of examples, such as the 1992 referendum on the Charlottetown Accord, that show the public is independent and 
 
Media bias is very real. I have never argued otherwise. I simply don&#039;t think media bias is as big a factor as people make it out to be. I think people make up their minds based on a range of influences, not just the media.
 
Thanks for raising the issue. I hope you will clarify your comments to represent my opinions more accurately.
 
Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Here is a comment I received by email from the radio-host I mentioned in my post.  (Since he had not posted the comment here, I am doing a straight &#8216;copy and paste&#8217; from the email itself, nothing added or taken away.)</p>
<p>I do agree that at calm times, he does qualify his &#8216;wrath&#8217; &#8211; but leading up to the election, he perceived the conditions he lists as (a), (b) and (c) where they did not exist and as the &#8216;pitch&#8217; heated up, he did drop any allusion to them altogether&#8230;.perhaps he got a little frustrated.  If he were to listen to some of the recordings of his show from those days, perhaps he would see that he did not follow his own rules, as he clearly thinks that he did.<br />
Xanthippa</em></p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that, and I think it&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re discussing this issue. I want to clarify a couple of points which you misrepresent in your comments about me, however.</p>
<p>I have never said there is no bias in the media. In fact, I have said that all human beings are biased and that includes everyone in the media. I acknowledge that individual members of the media are biased and that the majority of them are biased toward the left. I have said this on the air several times. So when you say that I say &#8220;there is no such thing&#8221; this is factually wrong.</p>
<p>When I disagree with callers, it is because they have raised the argument either that (a) there is an organized and deliberate attempt by media owners to produce a particular outcome (for example, in an election), (b) that the entire media, without exception is biased in one direction, or (c) that outcomes occur entirely or principally because of media bias.</p>
<p>My response to these arguments is always the same, and as you point out I speak as someone with more than 20 years of experience in the media, sometimes in senior management, and much of it with some of Canada&#8217;s largest media corporations. First, the national media in Canada does not conspire to elect a particular party or cause the defeat of a particular party. Second, the leaders of media companies do not provide instructions to editors, reporters and broadcasters on a daily basis on how to spin the news to the benefit of a particular party. Third, there is clearly a broad range of voices available to consumers of media in Canada, including strong conservative columnists and talk-show hosts and a national newspaper with a conservative viewpoint. Fourth, while many people argue that the media in Canada opposes the Conservative party, almost every newspaper in the country endorsed them in the last election and almost as many in the previous election. And finally, there are plenty of examples, such as the 1992 referendum on the Charlottetown Accord, that show the public is independent and </p>
<p>Media bias is very real. I have never argued otherwise. I simply don&#8217;t think media bias is as big a factor as people make it out to be. I think people make up their minds based on a range of influences, not just the media.</p>
<p>Thanks for raising the issue. I hope you will clarify your comments to represent my opinions more accurately.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: sam222</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2008/11/19/the-medias-perception-of-themselves/#comment-530</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The so call mainstream, left wing news media have gone out of there way covering up facts and suppressing information to get elected Barack Obama. 

The good news is they have become much of a joke in the minds of many Americans.
http://www.elinkfind.net/

A Zobgy Poll shows that supporters who voted for Barack Obama didn’t know their candidate. In fact, they didn’t know much at all only what they get from the left wing news media.

Here is a video
http://sam222.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/voters-for-barack-obama-did-not-know-their-candidate/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The so call mainstream, left wing news media have gone out of there way covering up facts and suppressing information to get elected Barack Obama. </p>
<p>The good news is they have become much of a joke in the minds of many Americans.<br />
<a href="http://www.elinkfind.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elinkfind.net/</a></p>
<p>A Zobgy Poll shows that supporters who voted for Barack Obama didn’t know their candidate. In fact, they didn’t know much at all only what they get from the left wing news media.</p>
<p>Here is a video<br />
<a href="http://sam222.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/voters-for-barack-obama-did-not-know-their-candidate/" rel="nofollow">http://sam222.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/voters-for-barack-obama-did-not-know-their-candidate/</a></p>
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		<title>By: oo12oo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s good men like Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite, etc...

http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s good men like Edward R. Murrow, Walter Cronkite, etc&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ontheseventhday.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something else I&#039;ve noticed about the media (TV especially) is when selecting what they will cover, they seem to have only a few fixations, namely, dissing the government, especially if the government is right of centre or right of the media&#039;s definition of centre (which is a big distinction), following a scandal ad nauseum, especially if it involves a young blond woman or a famous celebrity, and good news about itself.  There&#039;s nothing wrong with criticizing government.  That&#039;s an important part of their role, but I&#039;ve noticed that since the Watergate scandal so many years ago, the media seems to be obsessed with uncovering a government scandal, and if they can&#039;t find one, they create one, but if they see themselves as society&#039;s watchdogs, there is so much more they need to do than just &quot;watch&quot; the government for us.  We need to have all sides presented fairly and accurately so we can make decisions such as whether or not to support military action.  It&#039;s not their role to take a position on that themselves and then feed us whatever is needed to make us agree. 

Same goes for a lot of the &quot;young blond women&quot; thing.  They are pandering to base voyeurism, at the expense of a whole range of other stories they could cover. 

There is very little attention paid to their role as information providers, being the folks would provide information on all the factors and all the angles needed for the citizen to understand his or her world. No wonder blogs are becoming the preferred source for so many of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else I&#8217;ve noticed about the media (TV especially) is when selecting what they will cover, they seem to have only a few fixations, namely, dissing the government, especially if the government is right of centre or right of the media&#8217;s definition of centre (which is a big distinction), following a scandal ad nauseum, especially if it involves a young blond woman or a famous celebrity, and good news about itself.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with criticizing government.  That&#8217;s an important part of their role, but I&#8217;ve noticed that since the Watergate scandal so many years ago, the media seems to be obsessed with uncovering a government scandal, and if they can&#8217;t find one, they create one, but if they see themselves as society&#8217;s watchdogs, there is so much more they need to do than just &#8220;watch&#8221; the government for us.  We need to have all sides presented fairly and accurately so we can make decisions such as whether or not to support military action.  It&#8217;s not their role to take a position on that themselves and then feed us whatever is needed to make us agree. </p>
<p>Same goes for a lot of the &#8220;young blond women&#8221; thing.  They are pandering to base voyeurism, at the expense of a whole range of other stories they could cover. </p>
<p>There is very little attention paid to their role as information providers, being the folks would provide information on all the factors and all the angles needed for the citizen to understand his or her world. No wonder blogs are becoming the preferred source for so many of us.</p>
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