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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Ham radio&#8217; internet</title>
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		<title>By: Existing laws may already allow &#8216;Thought Police&#8217; &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Existing laws may already allow &#8216;Thought Police&#8217; &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] when we do, we can make a difference:  the New Zealand government is backing off implementing its controversial &#8216;Section 92A&#8217; of their copyright law, which would force all ISPs to cut off internet access to anyone even accused of copyright [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when we do, we can make a difference:  the New Zealand government is backing off implementing its controversial &#8216;Section 92A&#8217; of their copyright law, which would force all ISPs to cut off internet access to anyone even accused of copyright [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are legal issues with using ham radio to connect to the Internet in most, if not all, jurisdictions.  Setting them aside, though, there&#039;s also some pretty challenging technical ones that stand in the way of using radio signals (whether under the aegis ham radio or otherwise) to form a peer-to-peer network.  The long and the short of it is that you can do it in HF, resulting in a relatively small number of nodes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to locate at the cost of having very limited bandwidth, or you can do it in UHF or higher and get a good deal of bandwidth at the cost of requiring lots of participating nodes that would be relatively easy to locate using direction-finding techniques.

This has become a recurring question (it&#039;s come up in other forums as well), so I&#039;ll have to write more about it in my blog.  Stay tuned....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are legal issues with using ham radio to connect to the Internet in most, if not all, jurisdictions.  Setting them aside, though, there&#8217;s also some pretty challenging technical ones that stand in the way of using radio signals (whether under the aegis ham radio or otherwise) to form a peer-to-peer network.  The long and the short of it is that you can do it in HF, resulting in a relatively small number of nodes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to locate at the cost of having very limited bandwidth, or you can do it in UHF or higher and get a good deal of bandwidth at the cost of requiring lots of participating nodes that would be relatively easy to locate using direction-finding techniques.</p>
<p>This has become a recurring question (it&#8217;s come up in other forums as well), so I&#8217;ll have to write more about it in my blog.  Stay tuned&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-846</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Id be interested to know of ham radio access to internet


&lt;em&gt;Xanthippa says:
So would I.  That was rather the point of the post....  And, while the wavelength of ham radio communication makes it possible to bounce the signals off the atmosphere, it would not be an easy wavelength to carry the digital signal necessary for internet access....  Still, that does not mean that something that resembles ham radio use in that it utilizes communication without the need of centrally-controlled physical infrastructure cannot be developed.  Here, I am hoping to get people thinking about the &#039;how&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Id be interested to know of ham radio access to internet</p>
<p><em>Xanthippa says:<br />
So would I.  That was rather the point of the post&#8230;.  And, while the wavelength of ham radio communication makes it possible to bounce the signals off the atmosphere, it would not be an easy wavelength to carry the digital signal necessary for internet access&#8230;.  Still, that does not mean that something that resembles ham radio use in that it utilizes communication without the need of centrally-controlled physical infrastructure cannot be developed.  Here, I am hoping to get people thinking about the &#8216;how&#8217;.</em></p>
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		<title>By: The first rule of censorship is that you are not allowed to talk about censorship &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The first rule of censorship is that you are not allowed to talk about censorship &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steynian 335 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steynian 335 &#171; Free Canuckistan!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] success. Paradoxically, it is precisely this success that has created new types of borders&#8221;; and ‘Ham radio’ internet &#8230;. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] success. Paradoxically, it is precisely this success that has created new types of borders&#8221;; and ‘Ham radio’ internet &#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Making things mesh &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Making things mesh &#171; Xanthippa&#8217;s Chamberpot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8216;Ham radio&#8217;&#160;internet  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8216;Ham radio&#8217;&nbsp;internet  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Townsville Talk Forum</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Townsville Talk Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Everyone,

I&#039;m really enjoying this site.

Keep Up the good work.

Love Always

Sky]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Everyone,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this site.</p>
<p>Keep Up the good work.</p>
<p>Love Always</p>
<p>Sky</p>
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		<title>By: Let Big Brother decide for you - what could possibly go wrong? &#171; Perfidious Canada</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Let Big Brother decide for you - what could possibly go wrong? &#171; Perfidious Canada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for you - what could possibly go&#160;wrong? 2009 March 13    by Perfidious   I have thought about this post a lot.  I find it depressing, demoralizing, and more than a bit worrisome that governments are [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for you &#8211; what could possibly go&nbsp;wrong? 2009 March 13    by Perfidious   I have thought about this post a lot.  I find it depressing, demoralizing, and more than a bit worrisome that governments are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Currie</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Currie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for putting this together...It is a real threat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this together&#8230;It is a real threat.</p>
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		<title>By: WL Mackenzie Redux</title>
		<link>http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/03/12/ham-radio-internet/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WL Mackenzie Redux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now, the UK is proposing EXACTLY the same scheme!!!&quot;

In politics and social engineering ( and let&#039;s face ut the CRTC hase become a vehicle for engineering Canadian culture) there is no such thing as coincidence...things are planned and agendas are networked...that&#039;s what we are dealing with here in this recent meme of censorship plaguing free western society. There are many factions who have jumped on this control freak band wagon but essentially it is a machination of cultural marxism.

I prey our democracy is robust enough to withstand its onslaught, if not, the culture war will go postal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, the UK is proposing EXACTLY the same scheme!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>In politics and social engineering ( and let&#8217;s face ut the CRTC hase become a vehicle for engineering Canadian culture) there is no such thing as coincidence&#8230;things are planned and agendas are networked&#8230;that&#8217;s what we are dealing with here in this recent meme of censorship plaguing free western society. There are many factions who have jumped on this control freak band wagon but essentially it is a machination of cultural marxism.</p>
<p>I prey our democracy is robust enough to withstand its onslaught, if not, the culture war will go postal.</p>
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