Comments on: Winning back our liberty: the ‘commercial’ threat http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/12/16/winning-back-our-liberty-the-commercial-threat/ A place for raw, uncensored ideas to be hurled about, recklessly... Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:42:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: bulletproofcourier http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/12/16/winning-back-our-liberty-the-commercial-threat/#comment-2148 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:10:03 +0000 http://blog.xanthippas.com/?p=2472#comment-2148 Great article, thanks for posting at my blog and including your link. I like the cut of your jib, and will tune in often.

Xanthippa says:
Thanks!
You post some interesting ‘stuff’ yourself!

]]> By: Peter http://blog.xanthippas.com/2009/12/16/winning-back-our-liberty-the-commercial-threat/#comment-2071 Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:16:38 +0000 http://blog.xanthippas.com/?p=2472#comment-2071 A violation of the social contract.

At the present time, it seems to me that one of the reasons that the two camps do not communicate well with each other is that it is easy to forget that an individual interacts with more than one facet of society. Off the top of my head, there is …
1. individual to government/state
2. government/state to individual
3. individual to individual
4. individual to virtual-individual
5. virtual-individual to individual

One may argue that 1 & 2 can be lumped together, as may 4 & 5. When I use the the term virtual-individual, that may refer to something like a corporation which has some individual-like properties purely for the sake of interactions, but is really more of a system run by individuals.

Both the virtual-individual and the government/state are similar in that they are (emergent) constructs that were created by groups of individuals because they were useful. The problem, as with (mostly?) all systems created by individuals is that “All organizations seek to maintain their own existence”. Through the application of this rule/law, the existence of the organization may be viewed as more important than the use for which it was created. With the existence of the organization paramount, the freedom of the individual (that which created it) is at risk.

The above may not be the most coherent, but I am rushed for time at the moment.

Peter.

Xanthippa says:
Actually, Peter, I think your comment is brilliant.

I would add two more (OK, if I ever manage to finish my post today – I’m having to cut it down to a reasonable size and having trouble figuring out what to take out!!!!) relationships.

6. Virtual-individual to virtual-individual
7. Government/state to Government/state

But, I get your point!

The ‘group’ (not an official group, just describing an outlook) that focuses on ‘individual to Government/state’ and back, and the ‘group’ that focuses on ‘individual to virtual-individual’, and back, do not mix because their focus is so different.

However, as the governments/states become closer and closer associated with virtual-individuals, begin to work more and more closely together, these two ‘groups’ ought to find a common ground.

And, I think that it is high time they did!!!

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