Tarek Fatah discusses the Burka

I have a fundamental problem with giving the government – any government – the right to regulate clothing.  From public nudity to the burqa – I am not owned by anyone else and therefore, I do not accept anyone else’s authority to dictate what I do or do not wear.

Having said this, I do agree with Mr. Fatah on just about all the important points:  private businesses must retain the right to assert dress codes on their property, even if it is open to the public.  In other words, ‘No shoes, No shirt, No face – No service’ must be at the discretion of the private business or individual (this would include taxis and private transportation firms as well as real property).

In addition, I also agree with Mr. Fatah that the government has the right – I would assert the responsibility – to ensure that people in publicly owned spaces, buildings and receiving publicly operated services (like, say, public transport) reveal their faces for ready identification, much as the Quebec government has asserted.

Perhaps some people think that this is ‘splitting hairs’, that ‘banning the burqa’ and ‘demanding facial visibility while on public property’ are the same thing.

I would beg to disagree:  they may have the same effect in the sense that a person who wishes to partake in our society must show their face to do so.  However, they are very different things because they are rooted in different principles.  (And, contrary to popular belief, that does mean something.)

The banning of a particular piece or style of clothing sets up the precedent that the government has the right to tell us how to dress.  I don’t happen to think it does.  If my neighbour decides to start walking their dog in the buff, that is their own business – I might snigger or gossip, but I certainly do not have the right to demand they ‘cover up’, so I cannot delegate that right to my elected members of parliament:  hence, the government does not have the right to tell us what to wear.

(Yes, I know, as shown in the above link, the Ontario courts of appeal have just recently upheld laws against public nudity:  and I disagree with their belief they have the jurisdiction to rule on this subject.)

Because if we give the government the power to rule over what we may or may not wear, the chador is not far off….just wait for the demographics to change a little bit.  No – we’d be much safer clearly setting the precedent that governments have no jurisdiction whatsoever over what we wear and how we wear it when we are on our own time, as private citizens.

However…

Governments do have a responsibility to deliver citizen and resident services safely and effectively.  This cannot be done if the citizens receiving/delivering the services are not readily identifiable.  Therefore, I recognize the governments’ right to demand that faces be visible for the purposes of receiving/delivering public services (and driving, voting, and so on).

In addition, governments have taken upon themselves the responsibility to deliver services without discrimination, especially without discrimination to disabled individuals.  Many people with hearing impairments partially or fully read lips in order to understand what is being said to them.  It is therefore essential that hearing disabled citizens, whether receiving or providing a government service, must be able to read the lips of all those around them – which is also a valid reason for accommodating the ‘uncovered face in public places’ policy.

So, rather than expanding government powers to cover clothing, we should use already existing laws made in order to have an inclusive society to achieve this end.

To me, there is a huge difference between the two approaches, because, after all, the means define the end!

3 Responses to “Tarek Fatah discusses the Burka”

  1. Steynian 457rd « Free Canuckistan! Says:

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  2. letterstoadyingdream Says:

    One question if someone is using public transportation to go to a Halloween party while we can say a mask isn’t appropriate because you can take it off what about make up and face paint? I want to go to the party and since I’m not about to drive there I paint my face before I go since I’m not going to do it there should I not be allowed on the train since it does cover my face(this isn’t hypothetical since I do it every Halloween although it’s never been a problem)? Now I don’t agree with the banning of the burka but do think they have the right to say I can’t wear a mask or Halloween costume into the DMV, a bank or any private business that choses not to allow it and you shouldn’t be allowed to take a photo ID with your face covered but I think it’s just something to think about. Even if we take halloween out of it think about make up in general. A person can put on normal make-up that does change their appearance dramatically to the point that they would be very hard to identify especially combined with a wig. How far can we go before it is too far? My problem is the government isn’t reasonable and even if one police departments and judges might be cool about things others can use the same laws to bust people unless the laws are very specific about what you can and can’t do.

    Xan says:

    You raise several important but quite separate points.

    1. Japan has a different legal tradition than we do in the Anglo countries. We are children of the Magna Carta and follow Common Law: this means that our laws do not say what we may do – we can do ‘everything’ unless there is a specific prohibition against it. It may not seem like a lot, but it is a very important philosophical distinction which defines our attitudes towards our government. Since core rights originate within each one of us, governments do not have the ability to tell us what wa ‘can/may’ do!

    2. Masks of all types – I think we are in agreement, especially when it comes to public transportation. One caveat: this would be much simpler if all forms of trnsportation were private, so the owners could set their own rules…plus, it is inappropriate for governments to own the means of transportation as this gives them too much control over the citizenry.

    3. Facial painting: this is a brilliant point! With all the cctv cameras on every street corner and all the biometric facial recognition software ‘out there’, simple makeup and wig will not do you much good. However…there is a whole school of facial painting designed to defeat facial recognition softwares – intriguing!

  3. letterstoadyingdream Says:

    Japan isn’t that different and a lot of the laws are similar to or based off of Common Law. Such as you are innocent until proven guilty and you cannot be required to incriminate yourself. Although they can hold you without charges for up to 20 days and you can’t just tell them you won’t talk you have to refuse to answer each question not just refuse to answer questions period. They are different in that non citizens do have fewer rights even if they are in the country legally. If I got married in Japan and had children and didn’t become a citizen and my wife died I would only get custody of my own children if my in-laws didn’t object. Lucky for me that’s not a problem since I don’t have kids or a wife.

    Xan says: Thank you – this is interesting!


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