To work, vaccines have to make you sick. Really.

Recently, I found out that a lot of people are not aware that unless a vaccine actually made you sick, it did not work!

This is due to great sloppiness:  among the media, who report on ‘medical stuff’ without bothering to inform themselves on even the bare basics of the topic they are ‘reporting on’, among the educators (including Medical-school level), many of whom do not bother to actually understand the very things they are supposed to teach (or pretend not to, because of funding), and especially among the practicing medical professionals, who seem to think we are all so stupid that it is necessary for them to manipulate the information they permit us to have, so that we’ll make ‘the right choice’!

This is right out of several ‘pages’ of my ‘pet obsessive peeves’ book:  the ‘misrepresentation of science’ book, ‘bad/ignorant reporting’ book, ‘dumbed down education’ book, ‘state fascism’ – and a few more.  And, it makes me very, very angry.  Sorry if I am ranting too much….  So, what is the cause of my rant?

Recently, many Western news outlets (MSM, of course) carried the story that giving babies Tylenol (or, indeed, any other fever-reducing/anti-inflammatory medication) right before/after they get a vaccine greatly reduces the vaccine’s effectiveness.


Why in the world would medical professionals – the very people who ‘cracked’ this amazing and life-saving process called ‘vaccination’ – need a study on something as obvious as this?  If you understand the process of how vaccines work, it is clear that taking analgesics and anti-infammatories will necessarily interfere with the very way vaccines work!

Doctors don’t know this?!?!?  D-ughh!!!

At this point, I am shaking my head and wondering where to start….

Let me walk you through the steps in process through which vaccines are supposed to work:

1. ‘Controlled Infection’

A dead or weakened version of the virus (or viruses, in case of vaccines which protect against multiple pathogens) is introduced into the body of a healthy person.  This is usually done by directly injecting the vaccine into the body or by applying them to the mucuous membranes and allowing them to permeate through there.

2. Immune system response

The immune system finds the ‘intruders’ and begins to fight them.  The methods our immune system employs in this include fever (most viruses do not reproduce effectively at higher temperatures – hence, fever is a potent weapon our immune system uses), hot-cold spells/chills (most viruses cannot handle sudden temperature changes, which is why our immune system uses this weapon to kill them…actually, this is also how the whole sauna/steam-room thing works, if performed properly:  people go get hot, then cool off extremely suddenly by rolling in snow or swimming in freezing water – and repeat this process 3x or more times within one hour: most germs will not survive these sudden temperature changes), inflammation (among other reactions, mucuous membranes try to trap germs, so this form of immune system defense may involve significant mucus generation), and so on.  In other words, the immune system will evoke all the symptoms we associate with ‘being sick’ in order to ‘learn’ this ‘germ’.

3. ‘Creating a memory’

The immune system, during this fight, ‘takes notes’, so to speak.  It creates an ‘entry’ in its ‘dangerous thingies memory bank’, where it records everything it has learned about each germ:  how to identify it (by the pattern of proteins on its ‘skin’) and how best to fight it (this may include specific antibodies the immune system ‘learned’ to produce, and the ‘systemic symptoms’ like fever, which are unpleasant but kill the germ way faster than they kill us, and so on).

4.  Future protection

A healthy immune system will keep this ‘record’ for many years, sometimes up to three decades:  the more dangerous the immune system judges the germ to be, the ‘deeper’ the ‘entry’ and the longer it will ‘remember it’ and recognize the germ, should it ever infect the body again.  This is important:  the germs which attack us will reproduce inside our body at an exponential rate.  If the immune system ‘recognizes’ the germ, it does not have to spend valuable time (sometimes days) trying to figure out how to fight it – time the germs would use to increase their number and, perhaps, overwhelm the immune system.  Instead, it can compare the ‘germ’ to its ‘database’, retrieve the information about what destroys ‘this germ’ most effectively and start fighting it very shortly after  the germ first enters the body.  This means the germ does not have time to produce millions of copies of itself before the immune system effectively destroys it – and the person is protected from a serious infection.

5.  The Trick!

Because the pathogen which was introduced through the vaccine was weakened or killed, it is not capable of reproducing (or, reproducing effectively) in the host (you).  That means that it cannot overcome your immune system while the immune system is trying to figure out how to fight it.

To sum it up:

The pathogens in the vaccine must be strong enough to make our immune systems ‘take them seriously’ and fight them (and thus ‘learn’ how to fight the full-strength germ, if it ever infects that person), but harmless enough so that they cannot overcome the immune system while it is trying to figure out what works against this germ.

This means that a vaccine which does not make your immune system go into high gear (make you ‘sick’) has not given you any protection!

So, if you get a flu shot – and you do not get ‘mild flu-like symptoms’ – the vaccine did not work!

And, if you take medication which suppresses fever, and so on, you will be directly interfering with the immune system’s ‘learning process’.  As in, the immune system will mistake the reaction to the pill for the reaction to the last thing it did to try to fight that germ!

Is it any surprise, then, that it does not ‘learn’ how to fight this pathogen effectively?

Doctors are said to still be taking the Hippocratic Oath:  ‘Do no harm’.  In a person with a healthy immune system, a vaccine will produce the symptoms of the harmful illness it is to prevent, but prevent the ‘harm’ that an actual full-strength infection would cause.

Vaccination is an important weapon in fighting disease.

But, like everything else, it can do more damage than good if it is not used properly.  If it is misrepresented and misunderstood, then people may sabotage the very process the vaccine is inducing, without knowing it.  Then, thinking they are protected, they will not act as cautiously as they might otherwise…

And that, in my never-humble-opinion, is a bad thing.

6 Responses to “To work, vaccines have to make you sick. Really.”

  1. jo Says:

    my son add his first 2 shots no problem,but the third one got him into emergency, i was never told what was the reason for the reaction, but he add hives all over his body,fever, and was totaly unresponsive he look like he was having seizures, i’ve never been so scared in my life. i never took him for the rest of his shot and never will, even after my doctor told me i should and that maybe he would be fine now, i thought that was stupid, i would never put him at risk after what happen last time. I dont think vaccines are for everyone, but unfortunatly they are given as such,it would be nice to have some kind of detection program. i was also told that the benefits in most people outweights the complications that might occur in others, well its easy to say such a thing when it does not affect one life, but to anyone who add to take their baby to the hospital and fear for his life that argument just does’nt cut it.

    Xanthippa says:
    There are indeed people who are more likely to have adverse reactions to vaccination than others – and the CDC website used to list them. I know, because I saw them there myself.

    However, they were taken down due to political pressure – the same political pressure that prevents medical schools from teaching future doctors the true risks associated with vaccination.

    Don’t get me wrong – I do think that vaccines are an important tool. But, I think this tool is being misused and we are all being victimized by not being told the truth and permitted to then make a truly informed choice.

    For example, people who have serious immune system disorders are not likely to benefit from a vaccine to start off with.


    Because their immune system is already broken in some way – so relying on it to react to vaccination in the same way as a healthy immune system would is, to put it mildly, idiotic!!!

    Thus, people who have asthma, lupus, or very strong allergies and their immediate blood relatives should avoid vaccinations because not only will they not enjoy the benefit of vaccination, they are also more likely to have a very negative reaction to the vaccination process.

    In addition to the problems for people with imperfect immune systems, I am highly skeptical about vaccines that combine more than one pathogen.

    We know that even a weak secondary infection can be deadly – because our immune systems are very bad at processing attacks from more than one illness at a time. Therefore, I think that combining several illnesses into one vaccine is a very bad thing to do.

    You say that your son had a very adverse reaction to the 3rd shot: usually, that is the combined Measels/Mumps/Rubella (MMR) vaccine. Was your son’s bad reaction to the MMR?

    The MMR was the vaccine my own son had a bad reaction to – and as a result of the vaccine damamge, he has some minor motor nerve damage for life…so, yes, you have a reason to be angry – and to protect your child from further vaccine damamge.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    Thanks, now I know why I have been so ill for the last 3 weeks.
    I had an injection for, tetanus, hooping cough, polo, typhoid,colorer, hepituts A and B

  3. Jacinta Stevenson Says:

    Yes i was offered a job recently in a hospital. I was told in order to work in that department I would need over four vaccinations as well as influenza done just before I start. Even though I really want to work I dont want to start a new job which is stressful in its self whilst my body is trying to deal with the vaccinations and I could be feeling sick. However another argument comes to mind which makes me wonder if I can handle it. I am fit and healthy and rarely get sick. And it is very likely that over the past few years I have been in contact with people who have been sick with the flu and have not gotten sick myself which is basically like a influenza vaccination in itself because my body has been exposed to it, had enough strong antibodies to deal with it and so therefore knows how to respond to it. This quite possibly means I might not get sick from the shot (unless its from all the additives that r in it), but then it also means that i dont really need the shot! but try explaining this to the hospital, they wont trust that I know my body, cause we live in a society that is disconnected from an intimate relationship with our own bodies. all other diseases is understandable in some way for a hospital but I will most likely get sick from those vaccinations esp if all done at once! it would be great if there was a general detection system for the strength of ones immune system to deal with vaccination, esp multiple. even a questionarre or screening like how often do u get sick? but then people who get really sick r the ones that need it most!! ll I know is I do not want to have 5 vaccinations done just before starting a job. I am now looking outside of the public health system for work. And considering if I should begin some vaccinations one at a time so I am ready for work later down the track and protected against less common but more serious diseases.

    • Harry Fitch Says:

      I am a telephone technician that works for a hospital chain. They didn’t require me to get shots since they said I wasnt going to be working around sick people. My first day on the job the other techs and our boss told me. For the first 6 months I will be sick left and right. He said he warned HR to get people vaccinated because even though we aren’t directly in the rooms with the ill. Many viruses can be transmitted by air and other things. My boss and other techs weren’t lying. I probably missed 2 months of work in a 6 month window. The cool thing about my boss is he fudged the paperwork to never show I was off. He was so pissed at his bosses and HR he said they made you sick you get paid for it. The strange thing working for the hospital is after that initiation by virus I enjoyed every minute. I never get sick anymore. I’ve become friends with doctors. They give me lots of free “advice” and pills haha.

  4. Typhoid Tycoon Says:

    Not all vaccines produce side effects. On the other hand, Typhoid vaccine may produce flu like symptoms… In 1 in 100 people.
    Grrr so annoying when the media produces bad scientific reports.

    • xanthippa Says:

      My point was that when vaccines produce symptoms of illness, it is NOT a failure of the vaccine, but rather a by-product of the immune system learning to deal with that pathogen.

      And yes, unless there is a sufficient immune system reaction to allow the immune system how to deal with the pathogen, there will not be any immunity acquired.

      Yes, some reactions are mild enough for a person not to notice them – but that does not mean that they do not happen.

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