‘Medieval Warm Period’: why do warm-mongers ‘have to get rid of it’?

While reading through the ClimateGate documents, I noticed that the ‘scientists’ paid some serious attention to the ‘Medieval Warm Period’(MWP).

Specifically, it worried them – we’ve known that since 2006, when one of them openly stated “We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period”.

They did not like it.

They wanted to get rid of it.

And rid of it they got!

The second IPCC report (1995/6) showed that the Middle Ages were several degrees (about 3) warmer than the global temperatures are today.

The third IPCC report (2001) DID NOT!!!  It replaced the graph with the now infamously debunked ‘hockey stick graph’… and claimed the 1990’s were by far the warmest period ever.


At first, I thought that the reason was the obvious thing:  if things were that warm during 800 – 1 000 years ago, then it would be hard to panic people into giving them tons of research money now.

Then, I thought back to Al Gore’s instructive little movie…  What was the most iconographic image in it?

Al Gore’s big shiny graph which showed how temperature and carbon dioxide are linked!  Here was the proof that more CO2 means higher temperatures!!!

And, our CO2 IS going up.  Measurably.

Except that the temperature goes up first, then, about 800 or so years later (this period varies by a few centuries either way, but, roughly, it has about an 800 year lag) the carbon dioxide goes up!

It is hard to see this lag on Mr. Gore’s graph, because the two curves are separated out.  But, if one superimposes them on the same time-line, it is clear to see that the temperature goes up first and the CO2 goes up (about 800 years or so) later…

Not only does the CO2 go up, the graph shows that it can spike up very quickly!  The pattern shows a slow decline, followed by a sharp, ‘sudden’ rise.

WHEN was that Medieal Warm Period?  The one during which the temperatures shot up?

800-1300 C.E.?

Hey, that is somewhere between 700 and 1 200 years ago.

How long is the lag again?

800 years, plus or minus a couple centuries either way…

Doesn’t that mean that – just about NOW – we should be expecting the CO2 levels to spike up?

Way up?

How come we never hear about that?

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4 Responses to “‘Medieval Warm Period’: why do warm-mongers ‘have to get rid of it’?”

  1. mitchel44 Says:

    Try this one, http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3553 , the data comes from NOAA and the link is in the blog.

    No CO2, but nice to know that the Vikings really did farm and die in Greenland, and no wonder their graves are still stuck in the permafrost.

    Xanthippa says:

    Yes, you are quite right.

    In my posts in the past, I have compared the current hysteria to a patient whose temperature goes up by two or three degrees overnight: putting him in an ice bath to slow the rise in his temperature may sound good – except for a patient who is coming out of hypothermia! Similarly, the Earth might warm a little as it comes out of the Little Ice Age….

    But, there is something ELSE here.

    This is NOT about the TEMPERATURE rise being natural.

    It is about the CO2 rise being natural.

    Because our spin-meisters are now telling us: forget the temperature records so far, there ‘may’ have been tampering, so let’s look at some other ‘thing’ we CAN measure. Hey, look: the CO2 is spiking! This MUST be the Greenhouse thing – so, this IS true, so we MUST take away your money AND some of your freedoms in order to fight it.

    Because, that IS what they are saying.

    And I am trying to point out that the CO2 rise might – just might – be as natural as everything else. Not only that it is not harmful of itself, but that we ought to have been expecting it! As part of the 800-year cycle: temperature goes up, 800 years later, CO2 spikes up.

    So, the rise in CO2 is NOT a ‘confirmation’ that we ought to continue on the ‘cap-and-trade’ path….which we are being told it is….to shut us up and make us drink the Kool-Aid.

    Hey, I wonder if they’ll make the Kool-Aid carbonated!

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