Freedom of Speech under fire – again

Not surprising,  but with a twist…

Since I have been experiencing some problems with my internet connection (few minutes on, few hours off), I cannot dig into this as well as I would like to.  However, Kaffir Kanuck has an in-depth write up – perhaps you could read it there.

Let me just state, clearly and unequivocally:  freedom of speech is a core human right and we must tolerate no infringement upon it. That whole “I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it” adage applies here.  For the State to use criminal law to silence a citizen is simply beyond the pale and we must all stand up and speak up against it!

At the same time, a foreign government is using SLAPP suits to successfully bully Canadian broadcasters…

The Ottawa Citzen: ‘Blog vs. Blog’

Wow – the MSM is taking note of the Baglow v. Free Dominion decision!

This is most excellent – the fight for freedom of speechin general and the Fourniers’ and Smith’s battle in particular is of great importance to all of us.  It is gratifying to see a mainstream newspaper pick the story up.

If you have missed it, I have written up this ruling here.

H/T:  Andrew Phillips

 

Free Dominion wins the Baglow case!

FREE DOMINION WINS ONE!!!

YES!!!

This is most excellent news!  And – most enjoyable reading…

Last month, I reported my observations and opinions (strictly personal ones) of the hearing for summary judgment in the ‘Baglow case’:  here are part 1 and part 2.

Quick recap:  John Baglow and ‘Peter O’Donnel’ got into a heated debate online which spanned several blogs and the Free Dominion discussion forum on the topic of Omar Khadr, his trial and whether or not supporting Omar Khadr constitutes ‘supporting the Taliban’.

John Baglow then tried to sue ‘Peter O’Donnel’ and Free Dominion for defamation:  ‘Peter O’Donnel’ for what he said and Free Dominion for being the forum in which he said it.  (‘Published it’ would be a more accurate term – but ‘said’ just rolls off the keyboard so much more easily!)

Today, the ruling in the case came in:  the case has been dismissed.

Here are a few quotes from the ruling which I found most interesting:

[70] Bringing an action on the comment in mid-debate runs contrary to the rules and has the
effect of chilling discussion. If allowed, it places the opposing party in a defensive mode, rather
than an offensive one, strategically putting that party at a disadvantage.

[71] This was all the more so where the blog is used to aggressively berate the other side,
score points employing colourful derogatory characterizations, e.g. the plaintiff calling the
defendant Comrie Fournier the “Free Dominatrix” or referring to the opposition as “yokels with
pitchforks”, or to undermine their logic and indeed their standing by superior debating skills.

* * *

[84] In any event, the plaintiff largely contradicts his view of the evidentiary basis that the
Court should use to judge this matter. He describes the foundation for his own contemptuous
views towards the defendants as follows:

With respect to paragraph 7, I do not deny that the Defendants and I are
ideological adversaries and opponents in the blogosphere. I do not know the
defendants personally, and so my derision, scorn and contempt for them. can only
be for their opinions and actions as evidenced by their postings.

[85] I am in agreement with the plaintiffs statement, which should have mutual application to
all parties engaged in this political debate. There is nothing in the blogging threads which would
suggest that there was any personal or inherent express malice on the part of the defendants
directed at the plaintiff, as opposed to the mutual contempt of the parties for each other’s
opinions and actions as evidenced by their postings.

[86] The defendants would be entitled to rely upon the defence of fair comment should their
statement be found to be defamatory.

The way I understand these words, the judge is saying that when one starts to loose in an online debate, running to the courts to sue the other side is not an appropriate course of action.  And, if it is OK for YOU to call somebody names, it is OK for THEM to call you bad names as well…

OK – I that was the sweetest bit in the ruling – in my personal opinion.

Here are some other bits that caught my eye:

  • The statement by ‘Peter O’Donnel’ were statement of opinion during an ongoing debate

[40] Instead, I conclude that the opinion expressed by the defendant lies at the heart of the
debate between the factions represented by the. parties and whether the underlying facts are true
or not, readers following the blog would understand the comment as being one side of the debate.

  • Just because somebody calls you a name does not mean people believe it

[54] The fact that the parties are engaged in ongoing debate over what it means to support the
Taliban is recognized in the plaintiffs attempt to explain the distinction between his situation and
that when the late Jack Layton, former leader of the NDP) was described as “Taliban Jack”.

Secondly, the handle “Taliban Jack” does not necessarily imply conscious
support, but rather suggests giving an unintentional and unplanned advantage to
the Taliban. I respectfully submit the words spoken by Mr. Smith cannot be given
such an interpretation and imply conscious support for a political group at war
with Canadian Forces. [Emphasis added]

[55] I frankly fail to see the distinction in not implying “conscious support” when applied to
“Taliban Jack” giving an advantage to the Taliban and to the statement that the plaintiff is a
vocal supporter of the Taliban.

[56] But more importantly, the plaintiff’s comment is understood as being part of the ongoing
debate between the two factions represented by the parties’ views. No reasonably informed
Canadian would conclude that Mr. Layton was defamed by being called Taliban Jack,
understanding that this was simply a catchy label attached to him by conservatives to showcase
what they consider the weakness of the liberal argument in this political debate.

[57] Reasonably informed readers of these blogs would understand labelling the plaintiff a
supporter of the Taliban as performing the same function and would not consider the comro.ent
capable of lessening the reputation of the plaintiff.

  • Here is a bit that refes specifically to blogging

[59] nternet blogging is a fonn of public conversation. By the back and forth character it
provides an opportunity for each party to respond to disparaging comments before the same
audience in ‘an immediate or a relatively contemporaneous time frame.

[60] This distinguishes the context of blogging from other forms of publication of defamatory
statements. One exception couId be the live debate, of which blogging constitutes the modem
written form.

[61] I am not suggesting that defamation can never occur in a live debate. I do say however,
that the live debate forum should be considered as a contextual factor 10 determine whether the
statement is defamatory in so far as whether it is complete.

[62] An example that does not in any manner reflect the Court’s views on these issues, but
wbich might serve to explain how derogatory, even defamatory remarks are expected to be
parried in a live debate so as to remove the “sting of the libel” and attenuate any threats of
diminution of reputation might be as follows:

Mr. Smith knows full well that I abhor what the Taliban stand for. His calling me
one of their supporters because I think they should be entitled to due process in
accordance with lntemationallaw would be like me calling him (some derogatory
descriptor, e.g. “a Nazi fascist”) because he wants to trample the rights that’
Canadians cherish, etc. [Example provided by the Court]

[63] Given that the plaintiff pleads his belief that “there is a reasonable likelihood of damage
to my repumtion if it became generally believed that I supported the enemies of the
Canadian Forces”, it seems that the tendency of the comment to lower his :reputation, particularly
when arising in the form of a comment in a debate, could have been quickly nipped in the bud by
a simple rejoinder in the fashjon described above. This would have had the additional benefit of
allowing him. to score some points of bis own.

There are other really interesting bits – read the full ruling for yourself!

‘Journalists’ vs ‘Bloggers’

Interesting….

The Quebec Minister for Culture is not the only one who seems to think that ‘bloggers’ ought not be granted the same treatment as ‘journalists’.   This presumption that ‘journalists’ are ‘professionals’ while ‘bloggers’ are ‘unwashed scum’, that ‘journalists’ ought to be granted privileges while ‘bloggers’ ought not has found fertile ground among our ‘elites’.

I came up against this personally, just last month.

At the Ontario Court of Justice – of all places!

Which is rather ironic, because it was the Ontario Courts who (among other courts) ruled that everything bloggers post on the internet is indeed ‘an act of publishing’ and therefore subject to all the laws, rules and standards that apply to any print publication.

Actually, if one thinks about it, this ruling places ‘bloggers’ on par with ‘publishers’ – one rung above mere ‘journalists’, who are, after all,  just employees of ‘publishers’…but let’s not be elitist here!  ;0)

{Let’s also not pretend that ‘blogging’ is actually ‘anonymous’:  the vast majority of bloggers do not take elaborate precautions to hide their identity – and their ISPs will reveal their names the moment it is clear the blogger broke the law.  It’s right in the ISP’s contract…  So, blogging ‘anonymously’ is simply a means of filtering out the frivolous bullying of bloggers too small or not connected enough so that they are pretty much defenseless.  If anyone has a legitimate case and goes through the legwork, the real-life identity of the blogger is accessible to them.  Plus, most bloggers are better known by (and their reputation is thus built on) their online persona – our ‘nom-de-plume’ – than by our mundane name.}

So, what is it that I am actually talking about?

Last month, just one week after they came to Ottawa for the Baglow case, Connie and Mark Fournier were back in Ottawa in court:  this time, they were applying for leave to appeal the ‘Blishen’ ruling in the Warman case. Their case was last on the docket and we had waited around all day only to be told that they would not get to us.  (The case itself ended up being heard last week, and the result was not a good one for the Fourniers.)

While waiting in the courtroom for the Fourniers’ turn to come, I kept writing in my notebook. It is a bit of a habit – it keeps me focused.  And while I didn’t actually take notes on the cases that were going on, I did note the demeanour of Warman’s team of lawyers (headed by the charismatic Mr. Katz) and doodled to pass time.  The judge took pity on those of us waiting and told us that they’ll not get to the Warman case until way after lunch, so we all filed out of the courtroom, intent on finding sustenance.  As in, food.

The bailiff followed us out, caught up with me and informed me that I was not permitted to take notes in the courtroom.  We all stopped, surprised at this:  I had taken copious notes at previous hearings – in several different cases, without ever any complaints against me.  And, I saw journalists take notes at some hearings, too…

We (the Fourniers,  Fred Litvin of the Free Thinking Film Society and of GayandRight, a few other supporters of the Fourniers and I) peppered the bailiff with questions.  Many questions…

He was very polite and exceedingly civil – and I do not doubt that he is a nice man and a truly good human being.  He was simply informing us of the rules, as he – as an officer of the court – understood them.  The upshot of what he said was:

  • the plaintiff/defendant, their lawyer and their lawyer’s aides may take notes in court, as they are ‘participants’
  • no spectators who are simple ‘members of the public’ may take notes in the courtroom, because they might not understand things properly or such and get a false impression of what was happening (I could not help but wonder why a person would need to be taking notes to get a false impression of what is going on – why not ban us unwashed masses from the courts altogether if we are too stupid to follow the proceedings?)
  • ‘journalists’ may also take notes, because they are ‘professionals’ – they are trained and presumably licensed (or will be, in Quebec), so it is OK…
  • ‘bloggers’ don’t count as ‘journalists’ – they are simple ‘members of the public’

When I pointed out that the courts themselves decided to hold us, bloggers, to the same standards as journalists were – so why should we have fewer rights to go with the same obligations – he shrugged, smiled, suggested that I should ‘get a life’ and said that if we really wanted to know more about the rules, we should check with ‘Court Services’….

So, after lunch, armed with a notebook and a pen and a healthy dose of righteous indignation, Fred Litvin (who graciously agreed to come with me for help and support) and I set out to seek the truth behind this double standard.

In the end, we were told that there really was no such rule, that members of the public – even lowly bloggers – were free to take all the notes we wanted to at any hearing in which a judge did not specifically forbid it … and – the bailiff had gone out of his way to find this out independently and then looked up not just me and Fred to apologize for having unintentionally misled us, but also each of the other people who had overheard him give out erroneous information.  I give him full credit for trying to rectify his mistake.

But – that is not my main point.  Well, not one of my two main points (I seldom have just one).

The fact remains that, based on instructions from a number of different judges, on a number of different occasions, the bailiff had been directed to deny anyone but ‘the participants’ in the cases and ‘certified journalists’ the right to take notes in their courtroom. So many judges had done this, in fact, that he was convinced this was the law!

WHO ARE THESE JUDGES?!?!?

And, once they had demonstrated this level of elitism (and contempt for us, regular citizens), why do WE – the citizens they would prefer to gag – permit them to remain judges over us?!?!?

Seriously – if these judges think the general public is too stupid to follow what they are  saying to us, how can they pass impartial judgment on us?  They have already formed a highly negative view of us – before we even entered their courtroom!

These are the people we are to entrust ourselves to?

REALLY?

…and the other point…

It took us a bit to find the proper wicket/window at the courthouse for ‘Court Services’ – the few inquiries we made sent us off in the wrong directions.  Our bad.  But…

Wherever we went – and wherever we identified ourselves as ‘bloogers looking for an answer’ – we elicited a very unusual response.

Well – unusual in the sense that I have not experienced this type of response from bureaucrats in the past.

Fast.

Courteous beyond belief.

And,  before we could begin to explain the particulars of our question, their supervisor or their manager, or their supervisor’s manager (or was that their manager’s supervisor?) was called in to deal with us.  Immediately!

And the boss – and bosses’ boss – came right away!!!

And they all looked – highly anxious…

….sort of like I imagine that government officials looked when facing ‘investigative reporters’ at the time of ‘Watergate’

Perhaps bloggers have filled the void left behind when most newsmen and newswomen abandoned ‘investigative reporting’ in favour of quoting press releases; when they joined the cultural elites as ‘journalists’ whose job is not to ‘report facts’ but to ‘present stories’ in a way that helps the social engineering elites control the unwashed masses….you know – us.

No wonder the Quebec Minister of Culture – and every other social engineering elitist [insert insults of your choice here] is attempting to diminish the role of ‘bloggers’!

UPDATE:  BCF has more details on the Quebec Culture Minister’s plans.

Pat Condell: ‘Insulting Religion’

Pat Condell says it so well…

The ‘Baglow case’: ‘Motion for a Summary Judgment’ hearing (Part 2)

See here for ‘Part 1’, which includes the background, the facts of the case (as agreed upon by both sides in the case) and the legal point of this hearing.

July 21st, 2011 was a blisteingly hot day in Canada’s capital.  The temperature outside climbed up to 36 degrees Celsius and the humidity stood at close to 100%.

Just before ten in the morning, when I arrived at the corridor outside of Coutroom 36, where the hearing was to be held, the air conditioning at the elegant Elgin St. courthouse was already having trouble limping along and the temperature indoors was significantly above room temperature (defined at 21 degrees Celsius) and bordering on uncomfortable.

When I arrived, many people were just filing out of the courtroom:  another case was being heard first, and this would take intil at least 11:30… when the court would take its first break.  This dampened the spirits of the little group of people who, like I, had come to show support for the Fourniers and ‘Peter O’Donnel’ from FreeDominion, the defendants in a defamation suit brought against them by ‘Dr. Dawg’:  many could not stay the full day…

Among the friendly faces, I recognized Fred Litvin of the Free Thinking Film Society, who was one of those who could not stay the full day. Andrew Phillips, leader of the Libertarian Party of Canada, as well as longtime freedom of speech supporters Roland and Fran (plus your never-humble correspondent) stayed for the duration of the hearing.  As far as I could tell, nobody stayed to support Mr. Baglow.

I was curious to see John Baglow – having never laid eyes on him before.  He wore a crisp blue shirt (curiously evocative of ‘the working class’ and of ‘cowboys’ at the same time) with aviator-style sun-glasses in place of a tie, dark pants and cute black cowboy boots with the most adorable little metal trimmings.  In his hands, he held a summer-weight (possibly straw), white, fedora-type hat.  His whitish-gray mustache matched his hair and I could read nothing from the neutral expression on his face.  John Baglow, the man, remained a closed book to me.

John Baglow was represented by Peter Francis Burnett – a lawyer who struck me as competent and who has a very pleasant, confident voice.

The Fourniers were represented by Barbara Kulaszka, while ‘Peter O’Donnel’ (who had flown in for this hearing from BC) represented himself.  The Fourniers are being sued for hosting the forum on which the insult was published, ‘Peter O’Donnel’ for having posted the insult.

The case was presided over by Mr. Justice Annis, J. (as the sheet outside the courtroom announced).  The judge struck me as sharp, very sharp, and quite well versed in the internet, the blogosphere and the issues (and lingo) surrounding it.  In other words, a judge who was knowledgable of the context and its complexities – something that is always a good thing, but which unfortunately does not always occur.  After all, judges cannot be experts in everything…

I have exactly zero legal training – therefore, my observations must be unedrtood as those of a layman and nothing more.  I am working from an imperfect understanding, and the few notes I took during the hearing.  I will do my best to be as accurate and to present the case as correctly as possible with my limited understanding, but I am bound to make mistakes.  If you can correct me, please, post a comment doing so!

Also, rather than presenting the case sequentially, I will address the individual ‘major points’ raised.  It seems to me this way, it will be easier to follow the various threads of reasoning.

Ms. Kulaszka was the first person to address the court, as it was she who had filed the ‘Motion for Summary Judgment’ which this hearing was for.  She was arguing that as both sides had submitted affidavitsin which ‘their side’ of the story was fully explained, and that since all the basic facts of the case are aggreed on by all the parties involved, all the facts relevant to the case are before the judge:  the judge can, therefore, make a summary judgment based on this material and there is no need for a full-blown, costly trial which would drag on for years.

She spent a long time explaining the context of the ‘debate’ and the various insults traded, and so on.  She described the trail – a debate about the ‘Omar Khadr’ affair which started on the Jay Currie blog (no longer up), moved from there to ‘Dr. Dawg’s Blog’ (where it degenerated to insults, back and forth), and from where it moved on to FreeDominion, a discussion forum.  None of these facts were in dispute, by any of the parties.

As I understand it, if the facts in a case are all clear and no further evidence needs to be presented, it can be ruled on by the judge directly.  If there are points which need closer examination, then the judge will rule that the longer, costlier process of a full trial will take place.  This is what the defendants had requested and what the plaintif was fighting against:  which is what this hearing was about.

Ms. Kulaszka cited ‘the McVeigh case‘ (see my list of some legal precedents on why I think it was relevant, and which may have taken place in BC, but under similar rules of Civil Law procedures to Ontario’s) as an example where a judge had all the facts in place and could rule on the whole case based on the evidence already submitted.

Mr. Burnett implied that it was silly of her to cite the McVeigh case, because there, the defendants lost!

Ms. Kulaszka pointed out that she raised the case only as a precedent in that was similar and demonstrated that the ‘mini-trial’ format of ‘Summary Judgment’ was applicable in this case.

The next major point of disagreement between the two sides, as I understand it, was a rather salient point over where a particular line lies…  Mr. Burnett argued that IF the words that were used against his client COULD be construed as defamatory, then a full-fledged trial must take place to decide if they were indeed defamatory in this particular instant.  Ms. Kulaszka argued that a full trial should only be held IF there are FACTS that are disputed:  if all parties agree to the FACTS, then the judge has all he needs to make the ruling.

The judge asked a lot of questions of both sides on each of the points raised.  He understood perfectly the context – he seemed to either be someone who follows the blogosphere or had done an excellent job educating himself on it in depth, including the ‘ascerbic’ debates in comment sections that can degenerate into name-calling matches.  He characterized the case as such an instance, and that he simply has to decide whether one of the parties had ‘crossed the line’ during the name-calling…

In any case of defamation, the plaintiff must demonstrate that he/she had indeed had their reputation diminished as a result of the words of the defendants.  Here, each side cited a different case as a precedent.

The defence cited the ‘WIC Radio case’ – a shock jock radio guy had, during a ‘live debate’ with an activist, said something that she took offense to and she sued for defamation.  The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that any reasonable person would have understood this to be ‘name calling’ and not as ‘a statement of fact’ – so the activist’s reputation had not been damaged.  Ms. Kulaszka drew the parallel to this situation:  it was a ‘debate’ which degenerated to ‘name-calling’ and was perfectly understood as such by all the readers of the blog/forum.  No harm – no foul!

Mr. Burnett raised a different case – Black v. Breeden.  In this case, Conrad Black sued a number of newspapers for defaming him.  The ruling (as I understand it) was that since the words were printed in ‘The Globe And Mail’ newspaper, the test for whether they are defamatory was whether an average reader of ‘The Globe And Mail’ newspaper would take them to be so.  As in, believe them/take them as ‘fact’ –  and thus ‘defame’ Mr. Black.

Mr. Burnett’s argument was that since the ruling took the opinion of the ‘average reader of The Globe And Mail’ to be the ‘test’ for defamation in the ‘Black case’, that was also the standard in this case.  As in, the opinion of the ‘average reader of The Globe And Mail’…

Ms. Kulaszka argued that the ruling was that ‘the opinion of the average person reading the medium in which the words were delivered’ was the ‘precedent’ set by the ‘Black’ case:  since this was delivered in the Canadian political blogosphere, it was the opinion of the average Canadian political blogosphere reader which was pertinent – not that of the ‘average reader ofThe Globe And Mail’.

The ‘Vigna v. Levant’ case was also raised as a potential precedent.  However, I am confused about who was the first to raise it.  It was certainly referenced by the judge quite a bit when he was asking questions.  The judge had also asked both parties to email him by Monday any other ‘interesting blogger-cases’ which he could review for precedents.

I see that the word count is going dangerously up…so I will be more brief.  Of course, all the usual ‘defamation’ bits were touched on and argued, that posting on the internet ‘contitutes publishing’, was there malice in the insult, etc. – and were argued well on both sides.  However, I would be remiss if I were not to cite some details which set this particular case apart from others and make it very unique indeed.

These two very specific details concern the actions of the plaintiff – and how the defendants interpreted them.

Apparently, the defendant, ‘Peter O’Donnel’ had not done anything to link the persona of ‘Dr. Dawg’ to the real-life person, John Baglow. As such, Mr. O’Donnel told the judge that his insult was directed at the ‘online persona’ of a ‘typical left-wing blogger’ – not the real-life person of John Baglow, whom he did not know or even conceive of as an individual.

It was Mr Baglow himself who had created a ‘sock-puppet persona’ called ‘Miss Miew’ (sp?), who purpoted to support ‘Dr. Dawg’s’ arguments – and who, as ‘Miss Miew’ had ‘outed’ him by identifying ‘Dr. Dawg’ as ‘John Baglow’.

1.

If I understand this correctly, ‘Peter O’Donnel’s’ defence is that the insult was not defamatory, but, even if it were, it was directed at the anonymous persona of ‘Dr. Dawg’ and that it was John Balglow’s own action in linking his real-life name to the persona in that discussion forum – the defendant’s own action – which could potentially have been harmful to his reputation IF the insult was indeed defamatory.

The judge asked for clarification on this point several times:  and yes, even the plaintiff agreed that it was his action which linked his name to his online persona in the forum.

2.

The Fournies are being sued for running the forum – and thus for being the ones who had publishe the ‘defamatory words’.  However, they were not the only ones!

The plaintiff himself had also published these very same words, in the comment section of his blog – and left them up for many, many months.

The Fourniers claim that since the defendant had himself published these words, about himself, on his own site, they had no credible reason to believe that the defendant had considered the words defamatory.

Mr. Baglow’s lawyer, Mr. Burnett, admitted that this was so, but proposed that the plaintiff’s own actions have nothing to do with the defendant’s culpability and must not be considered in any other context than, perhaps, in the amount of damages to be awarded.

So, there it stands.

If I may indulge in stating my own, never-humble opinion of all this….

  • The ‘debate’ started on Jay Currie’s blog – then moved to ‘Dr. Dawg’s’, where it generated substantial traffic.  89 comments on one post alone!
  • Then, ‘Peter O’Donnel’ created a discussion about it on the FreeDominion site – and the ‘debate’ moved there.  Taking the traffic with it.
  • John Baglow tried everything he could to bring the ‘debate’ back to his own site – even re-publishing the most inflammatory bits from the FreeDominion ‘debate’ back on his own site.
  • When this did not work, he complained to Connie Fournier and demanded that she’remove’ the offensive words and, effectively, stop the ‘debate’ on the FreeDominion site…so that the ‘debate’ – and the accompanying traffic – would return to his site.
  • When she refused, he decided to punish her by suing everyone involved for defamation.

… at least, that is how it seems from my point of view!

The ‘Baglow case’: ‘Motion for a Summary Judgment’ hearing (Part 1)

I have not written much lately – but some events are so important that they simply must be written about.

Yesterday, 21st of July, 2011, I went down to the fancy courthouse on Elgin St, Ottawa, to observe the ‘Summary Motion’ hearing in the civil court case where John Baglow, aka ‘Dr. Dawg’, is suing Connie and Mark Fournier of the Free Dominion discussion forum and a member of the forum who posts under the name ‘Peter O’Donnel’.

In the past, whenever I went to one or another such hearing, I would take copious notes and then write them up – along with my impressions and never-humble-opinions into a post.  Now, thanks to my clutziness, neither one of my arms is fully functional… so my notes are nowhere near as exhaustive and my account will necessarily be shorter; less of a record of what had happened and more of my impressions and opinions of what had happened.  My apologies – but that is the best I can deliver right now.

1.  Background

John Baglow blogs as ‘Dr. Dawg’ (according to his lawyer, ‘he likes dogs’) – a somewhat typical ‘left-winger’ blogger (if there is such a thing) in the Canadian political blogosphere.  From the words of his lawyer, we learned that he is a contractor who usually works on contracts for public sector unions and the Conference Board of Canada ( if I am deciphering my notes correctly).

‘Peter O’Donnel’ is a contributor to (and a moderator on) Free Dominion, one of (if not THE) oldest political opinion forum in Canada, focusing mostly on ‘little c’ conservative and libertarian issues. Free Dominion is run by Connie and Mark Fournier.

In the backdrop of ‘the Omar Khadr‘ affair, much discussion was happening in much of Canada about these happenings.  On the one hand, some Canadians thought that Omar Khadr was a child caught in a war and an unfortunate victim of circumstances.  On the other hand, many people saw him as a young man who took up arms on the side of the Taliban, who lay in wait until a US medic came to tend to a wounded person and then cowardly murdered him – and who therefore deserves to be punished in accordance with the law.

The crux of ‘the Khadr affair’ lies in Omar Khadr’s age at the time he committed the act of terrorism (and, a court of law did find that he did indeed commit one):  under some laws, he was a ‘child’ while under other laws he was an adult.  A polarizing issue, to say the least.  But this is not about Omar Khadr – it is about a discussion regarding him, during which tempers flew high and debates degenerated into name-calling ‘online-brawls’.

2.  What both sides agree about (as I understand it – if I am in error, please, let me know and I’ll amend!)

Something posted on Jay Currie’s blog (a blog with a conservative perspective, but where people of many stripes of opinion tended to exchange opinions in the comment section – but which was no longer up at the time of this hearing) sparked a discussion about the Omar Khadr affair, with many participants, two of whom were ‘Dr. Dawg’ and “Peter O’Donnel’.

The exchanges got heated, to say the least.

This discussion got moved from Jay Currie’s blog to Dr. Dawg’s blog, where the heated exchanges continued among various posters including ‘Dr. Dawg’ and ‘Peter O’Donnel’.  It was said in court that at least one of these posts where the debated continued (in the comment sections) had 89 comments, of which 33 belonged to ‘Peter O’Donnel’.

‘Peter O’Donnel’ opened a discussion on this topic on the Free Dominion discussion forum, where the bulk of the debate then moved.

Both parties called each other names.  Nasty names.  ‘Peter O’Donnel’ stated the opinion (and I AM paraphrasing) that IF one supports Omar Khadr – who had indeed been convicted of terrorist activity on behalf of the Taliban – then one is ‘a vocal supported of the Taliban’.  (‘Dr. Dawg’ was ‘a supporter’ of Omar Khadr – one of the people who portrayed him as a victim.)

Mr. Baglow (‘Dr. Dawg’) then created a sock-puppet persona called ‘Miss Miew’ (sp?  I only heard it in court, so I may have mangled it – my apologies) who was posting in support of ‘Dr. Dawg’ and who ‘outed’ ‘Dr. Dawg’ as John Baglow by saying something to the effect of ‘Hey, this guy called Dr. Dawg a Taliban supporter – John Baglow should sue him for calling him that!’  (again, I was just listening in court and taking notes, so I am necessarily paraphrasing…)

Not satisfied with having publicly linked his own name to his online persona, John Baglow then proceeded to re-publish the exchange on his own blog. ( And, he left it up for many months.)

John Baglow contacted Connie Fournier and complained to her about the comment he had found offensive – on the Free Dominion site, that is, not from his own site.  He demanded an apology and that the comments be removed right away. Free Dominion did not apologize nor remove the comments.

Hence, the lawsuit for defamation.

3.  The ‘legal occasion’ (as I understand it)

All parties in the lawsuit had submitted affidavits in which each one of them explained ‘their side’ of the issue.

In Ontario (where this case is being heard), the Ontario Rules of Civil Procedure contain something called ‘Rule 20’ (see the ‘Some legal precedents…’ page at the top of my blog for more details) which, in a nutshell, is a

‘Rule allowing for summary judgment where there is no genuine issue for trial, and the proposed revisions that would allow for an issue to be settled by way of mini-trial.’

In a full-blown trial, there is testimony, cross-examination and ‘the full works’.  It is costly and can drag on for years.

This ‘mini-trial’ is an alternative which can be used when one of the parties concerns files a “Motion for Summary Judgment’.  A real, honest-to-goodness judge (not a moderator or a semi-judge) will listen to both parties and decide whether or not the ‘facts’ of the case are all in the submissions (so there would be no need for cross-examination and so on) and some other factors (which I am not so clear about) are satisfied.

If so and the case is pretty much ‘clear’ based on the materials which had already been submitted, then the judge has all that she/he requires to pass a judgment on the case.  (This is the ‘mini-trial’.)

If not and there are facts which are in dispute or which can only be clarified through a full trial, the judge will not render a ‘summary judgment’ on the case but will instead order a full trial to be held.

On June 21st, 2011, I attended this hearing of a Motion for Summary Judgment which had been filed by the defendants in this Baglow defamation case.

It was very interesting.

Continued in Part 2.

Free Dominion court date: July 21st, 2011

If you happen to be in Ottawa on July 21st, 2011, consider swinging by the Court House on Elgin St.

Free Dominion is being sued by John Baglow of Dawg’s Blog.

If you can, come and show them your support!

Thunderf00t: ‘The Rapture ‘n’ DMD2 wrapup’

 

Landmark Report: Free Speech or Not – Part 1

The first installment in the series by Kaffir Kanuck.

“…Combine those realities with the squeamishly absent Canadian politicians, who both advocate free speech yet have the testicular absenteeism of their convictions to be seen in public with Mr. Wilders, empowered are the extremist left who see a bigot under every honest debate just waiting to be exposed so they can turn them into the nearest Human Rights Commission for hate speech.

Well worth reading!