DU: Christianne Amanpour said Osama bin Laden lived in a villa in Pakistan 3 years ago

Well, well, well!

I guess bin Laden’s locations wasn’t such a secret…

And nobody had to waterboard her for it, or anything!

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3 Responses to “DU: Christianne Amanpour said Osama bin Laden lived in a villa in Pakistan 3 years ago”

  1. CodeSlinger Says:

    Xanthippa:

    So everyone knew where bin Laden has been living all this time.

    Everyone except the CIA.

    Is that what we’re supposed to believe?

    Well, it gets better. Much better.

    It turns out the Abbottabad compound was owned by a money changer named Arshad Khan, aka…

    Sheikh Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, Osama bin Laden’s right-hand man!

    Now, al-Kuwaiti was fingered by Hassan Ghul back in 2004.

    So it took the CIA seven years to figure out that bin Laden might be hiding in his house.

    Is that what we’re supposed to believe?

    These people are cunning and ruthless enough to claw their way into positions of power over the world’s most powerful nation.

    Yet they make such an unmitigated mess out of a simple raid, even though they command the world’s most sophisticated intelligence network and the world’s most formidable military.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    Xanthippa says:

    Do you remember when Obama was running for the US presindent?

    Did he not say that he would go to Pakistan – without the Pakistani government’s permission or knowledge – to take out Osama?

  2. CodeSlinger Says:

    Xanthippa:

    Oh, he said that did he? No, I don’t recall it. But that is an interesting data point.

    It amounts to an admission that the stated reasons for going into Afghanistan were not mistakes, but outright lies.

    Personally, I would find it lot more respectable if the Americans just admitted plainly that they are there to secure their interests in the region.

    Being bad-ass could actually make them look good.

    Except for the mealy-mouthed, pussy-footing way they go about it.

    Xanthippa says:

    I think I did not express myself clearly.

    Osama was indeed in Afghanistan – at the beginning. The reasons for going there were, I think, valid.

    However, by the time Obama was running for the presidency – few years into the Osama man-hunt and not that far removed in time from the Avanpour comment – he was going on about going after Osama into Pakistan, whether Pakistan liked it or not.

    To me – and this is just a supposition – this suggests that there were at least some elements within the US intelligence circles who knew where to find Osama at that time.

    Who knew what is anyone’s guess, as is just how firm their info was. after all, just because they recieve a piece of intelligence does not mean it is actionable: there needs to be confirmation from multiple sources and perhaps they could not evaluate the veracity of these reports.

    However, it suggests that Obama – while running for office – was getting better intelligence info than Bush was, because I think Bush would have wanted to have Osama captured during his reign, to tie up the ‘loose end’, so to speak.

    The implications are intriguing: either the Democrats have their own, non governmental sources (perhaps through the media – which, frankly, is perhaps more plausible), or they have analysts who are better than the government ones, or someone somewhere was leaking info to the Democrats instead of handing it up the chain of command…

    Or it might simply be that Obama was aware of some unconfirmed rumour about Osama being in Pakistan and, since some in the media clearly believed he was there, he might have been saying what he would do if he found out it was true.

  3. CodeSlinger Says:

    Xanthippa:

    Yes, in late 2001 Donald Rumsfeld claimed on National TV that Osama bin Laden was holed up in a fortified mountain named Gree Khil Peak near Tora Bora, roughly located a bit south of the midpoint of the line between Kabul and Jalalabad.

    However, when American troops occupied that region in early 2002, all they found were some dreary little caves. There was no such fortress. And bin Laden was long gone. If he was ever there.

    The story of Osama bin Laden was rife with lies from the beginning. He was never officially wanted in connection with the events of September 11, 2001. He was wanted for the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.

    The most likely scenario is that Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts were never in doubt among the main players. All the payoff for the American military-industrial complex was in hunting him. There was no profit in actually finding him. Thus, he was perfectly safe as long as fear of him and his CIA-created network of “terrorists” was needed to justify the destruction of American freedoms.

    If you doubt that, or if you think that Barack Obama had better intelligence than George Bush, recall that George Bush senior was the Director of Central Intelligence during the period when the CIA took over control of South American cocaine production and Southeast Asian opium production, and consider the intricate web of connections between the Saudi binLaden Group and the Carlyle Group.

    The former is a huge construction and oil conglomerate founded by Osama’s father, Sheikh Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, and the latter is a Washington merchant bank and holding company which owns enough arms manufacturers and aerospace companies and to make it de facto the eleventh largest American defence contractor.

    George Bush senior and Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz, Osama bin Laden’s brother in law, both sat on the board of the Carlyle group. James Baker was its senior counsel. In addition, Mahfouz was banker to the Saudi King and was one of the main shareholders in BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), which provided banking services to the likes of Don Pablo Escobar (El Patron of the Medellin cocaine cartel), Manuel Noriega (dictator of Panama), Saddam Hussein (dictator of Iraq), Sabri Khalil al-Banna (aka Abu Nidal, master terrorist) and Khun Sa (first among the opium warlords of the Shan States).

    A lot of this material can be found in an excellent article by Martin J. Rivers, which is all the more recommended because it has since disappeared off the globalresearch.ca website.

    Most importantly in the current context, Mahfouz funnelled millions of dollars in funding to Osama bin Laden. He did this every year until the day he died of natural causes in August of 2009.

    The suggestion that these people did not know that bin Laden was hiding in al-Kuwaiti’s house in Pakistan is just too ridiculous for words.

    So the fact that bin Laden is finished off now implies that his usefulness is over. And that suggests something chilling:

    The next phase in the war on American freedom is about to begin…

    Xanthippa says:
    That is my reading of the situation as well.


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