CodeSlinger: ‘The Comprachicos’ (Child Thiefs) by Ayn Rand

Some of the most popular post on this site are the guest-posts by CodeSlinger.  Lately, I have been ranting on about the dangers of segregating school-aged children based on some ‘visible’ criteria:  race, creed, sex, and the like.  This intro is followed by a guest-post by CodeSlinger.

Since a race-segregated school has opened as a pilot project in Toronto, there have been calls for segregating boys out of ‘mainstream  schools’ and into ‘boys-only’ classrooms or schools, run by male teachers (this latter part, of course, is contrary to our Charter of Rights and Freedoms), where the ‘goals’ set for the students would be ‘more achievable’ for ‘boys’.  In other words, ‘maleness’ was re-defined as a ‘physical disability’ for which specialized, dumbed-down classrooms were needed….

CodeSlinger has thought about this:  and, while he asserts that the current atmosphere in our public schools is very damaging to boys, especially when they are young, he has come to agree that the same people who have entrenched ‘Cultural Marxism’ in our classrooms cannot be trusted not to use their position of power and influence to ensure the ‘b0ys-only’ programs are not designed to be even more ‘toxic’ to boys than the current variety is!

As part of this debate, CodeSlinger has offered the following:

The Comprachicos

by Ayn Rand

[emphasis added by CodeSlinger]

The comprachicos, or comprapequeños, were a strange and hideous nomadic association, famous in the seventeenth century, forgotten in the eighteenth, unknown today …

Comprachicos, as well as comprapequeños, is a compound Spanish word that means “child-buyers.” The comprachicos traded in children. They bought them and sold them.

They did not steal them. The kidnapping of children is a different industry.

And what did they make of these children?

Monsters.

Why monsters?

To laugh.

The people need laughter; so do the kings. Cities require side-show freaks or clowns; palaces require jesters …

To succeed in producing a freak, one must get hold of him early. A dwarf must be started when he is small …

Hence, an art. There were educators. They took a man and turned him into a miscarriage; they took a face and made a muzzle. They stunted growth; they mangled features. This artificial production of teratological cases had its own rules. It was a whole science. Imagine an inverted orthopedics. Where God had put a straight glance, this art put a squint. Where God had put harmony, they put deformity. Where God had put perfection, they brought back a botched attempt. And, in the eyes of connoisseurs, it is the botched that was perfect …

The practice of degrading man leads one to the practice of deforming him. Deformity completes the task of political suppression …

The comprachicos had a talent, to disfigure, that made them valuable in politics. To disfigure is better than to kill. There was the iron mask, but that is an awkward means. One cannot populate Europe with iron masks; deformed mountebanks, however, run through the streets without appearing implausible; besides, an iron mask can be torn off, a mask of flesh cannot.

To mask you forever by means of your own face, nothing can be more  ingenious

The comprachicos did not merely remove a child’s face, they removed his memory. At least, they removed as much of it as they could. The child was not aware of the mutilation he had suffered. This horrible surgery left traces on his face, not in his mind. He could remember at most that one day he had been seized by some men, then had fallen asleep, and later they had   cured him. Cured him of what?  He did not know. Of the burning by sulphur and the incisions by iron, he remembered nothing. During the operation, the comprachicos made the little patient unconscious by means of a stupefying powder that passed for magic and suppressed pain …

In China, since time immemorial, they have achieved refinement in a special art and industry: the molding of a living man. One takes a child two or three years old, one puts him into a porcelain vase, more or less grotesque   in shape, without cover or bottom, so that the head and feet protrude. In the daytime, one keeps this vase standing upright; at night, one lays it
down, so that the child can sleep. Thus the child expands without growing, slowly filling the contours of the vase with his compressed flesh and twisted bones. This bottled development continues for several years. At a certain point, it becomes irreparable. When one judges that this has occurred and that the monster is made, one breaks the vase, the child comes out, and one has a man in the shape of a pot.

– Victor Hugo, The Man Who Laughs [Ayn Rand’s translation]

Victor Hugo wrote this in the nineteenth century. His exalted mind not conceive that so unspeakable a form of inhumanity would ever be possible again. The twentieth century proved him wrong.

The production of monsters—helpless, twisted monsters whose normal development has been stunted—goes on all around us. But the modern heirs of the comprachicos are smarter and subtler than their predecessors: they do not hide, they practice their trade in the open; they do not buy children,  the children are delivered to them; they do not use sulphur or iron, they achieve their goal without ever laying a finger on their little victims.

The ancient comprachicos hid the operation, but displayed its results; their heirs have reversed the process: the operation is open, the results are invisible. In the past, this horrible surgery left traces on a child’s face, not in his mind. Today, it leaves traces in his mind, not on his face. In both cases, the child is not aware of the mutilation he has
suffered. But today’s comprachicos do not use narcotic powders: they take a child before he is fully aware of reality and never let him develop that awareness. Where nature had put a normal brain, they put mental
retardation.

To make you unconscious for life by means of your own brain, nothing can  be more ingenious.

This is the ingenuity practiced by most of today’s educators.

They are the comprachicos of the mind.

They do not place a child into a vase to adjust his body to its contours.
They place him into a “Progressive” nursery school to adjust him to society.

And what do they make of these children?

Monsters.

Why monsters?

To rule.

So begins Ayn Rand’s essay, The Comprachicos, written in 1970. Since then, the comprachicos of the mind have had almost another half century to refine their technique, broaden the front of their attack, and make sure, in their own words, that no child is left behind.

Download and read the whole essay here:  Ayn Rand – The Comprachicos.

Then go do something about it!

Update:  the link to a pdf version of Ayn Rand’s essay has been added

Kindergarten: why this is bad for kids – and for society

This is not an easy explanation – please, indulge me.  I promise to make sense of it at the end.

For a century or so now, many experts have argued about what is more instrumental in determining a person’s fate:  their nature (genetic predispositions) or nurture (the environment in which they are raised).  Many experts today agree that there is some sort of a mixture of the two.  I am not attempting to determine where this balance lies:  I am simply making some observation that when very different social expectations are placed on young people, their very sense of ‘self’ – as defined with respect to society, how they belong, and so on, will be very different.  And, that these grown ups will have very, very different expectations of their role in society and the role of society in their lives.

Let me use some examples…

Imagine a life in a village.  Life is not so easy, and ‘everyone’ has to pitch in to help.

Most childcare is done through family:  depending on the birthrate, either through immediate (nuclear) family, or by extended family.  In these scenarios, the children would (usually) be in a group of 5-10 kids, either siblings, or siblings and cousins – looked after by their mother or a close female relative.  Within this group, there would be kids of varying ages:  from infants on up.  It would be unusual for this group to have ‘many’ kids of exactly the same age.

Because the kids are of varying ages, there are differing expectations placed on them:  the older ones are expected to help/be protective of/mentor the younger ones. This is very important, for several reasons.

It set up a ‘natural pecking order’ – one that was clear, obvious and acceptable:  the older kids were higher up the social ladder than the younger ones.  The expectations of them were higher – but, this went hand-in-hand with their increased prestige and social status within the group.  Yes, the kids were all expected to learn skills – from the adults, as well as from the older kids.  Not wanting to be surpassed in skills by the younger ones was an important motivator for learning and perseverance…

But, and this is perhaps most important, there were small, incremental successes.  Every time a child held a younger sibling or cousin to calm their crying, every time they would feed the younger ones, or change diapers, or teach them to throw pebbles at the birds eating the harvest, or how to make a whistle from a willow twig – this would be an accomplishment.

These accomplishments will each – taken separately – be very small.  But that does not make them unimportant!  Together, these accomplishments add up.  And

It is precisely through these small accomplishments that the person will self-define:  each one builds the child’s self-confidence, confirming their important role in their social group, giving worth to their membership in that group. It gives them a sense of ‘ worthy belonging’.

And let’s not kid ourselves – we all have a need to belong, we all feel better when we know we are needed!

Of course, if one’s skills in a particular field are great, that individual may ‘skip up’ a few rungs in the social order.  And, some societies only open specific roles to boys or girls, which may be detrimental to specific individuals.  I do not deny that, nor do I claim this system is ‘perfect’.  I simply comment on it, observing that in a small social group of children of varying ages, the social hierarchy/order is relatively easy to establish and learn for a young child, and that one’s expectations of ‘how to live and fit in’ are in accepting help/guidance from those ‘higher up’ the hierarchy, and in being protective of and being expected to help those lower down on that ladder.  This develops both a sense of worth and reciprocity towards the group, but also of empathy with the other kids who will grow up into one’s peers.

In other words, this child grows up expecting society where reciprocity is the social norm and each individual is expected to be an active participant in the giving and receiving and will have a healthy sense of self-worth and connectedness with their society.

Now, let us consider another child, growing up in a society which is structured very differently….

Parents are expected to work in a structured environment, away from home.  From an early age, children go to nursery school/kindergarten.

There, in order to facilitate ‘learning’ at ‘age-appropriate level’, they are grouped by age:  each group of 15-50 children of the same age are put together into a ‘class’ and assigned one or more ‘teachers’, possibly with several ‘assistants’ or ‘helpers’.  Thus, the adult-to-child ratio may be only slightly higher than in the previous scenario (it may even be the same), but the group itself is homogeneously composed of ‘peers’.

This sets up a very different social dynamic…

They are all peers!

There is no ‘easy’ way to establish a ‘pecking order’.

This, in itself, is rather disturbing to even young kids who generally need to understand where they fit in, socially.  Interacting with a large number of ‘peers’, introduced and maintained as equals, is not natural to our psychological development – at least, not at the age of 3-5 years!  So, this can be very, very confusing and instead of ‘age’ or ‘achievement’, social order in such a group (and there is always a social hierarchy in every group of humans) is decided by innate ‘dominance’ or ‘aggression’.

In addition, ‘mentoring’ or any attempt at ‘helping’ from one student to another is actively discouraged by the ‘teachers’ and their assistants as ‘bossiness’, ‘interference’ or even ‘bullying’ – even if it is offered with the best of intentions, in the most positive manner.

Instruction – of every student, in every aspect – is the exclusive domain of the teachers and their assistants, usually at a ‘common time’ and in a ‘common way’.  It is simply ‘not the job’ of any child to help another – and such empathy-building activity is discouraged or even punished.  Only ‘the teacher’ is permitted to ‘teach’, only ‘the teacher’ or ‘assistants’ are allowed to help!

This creates an environment where each child is a passive recipient of care and instruction.  They ‘receive’ – and are punished for any attempt to ‘give’.  Their self-worth is derived exclusively from their obedience to the adults in authority and their completion of ‘assignments’.  Even the skill level at which the assignment is completed is often not evaluated on the grounds that this would stigmatize the less-competent students and thus discourage ‘learning’:  simple obedient completion of the task, even in a sub-standard manner, in complete compliance with authority, is rewarded in todays kindergartens.

What is more – due to fears of accusations of sexual improprieties, teachers and their assistants are now (in Ontario Public School Kindergartens) not permitted to touch the students – even if the child falls down and is bleeding – beyond slapping on of a band-aid.  If the child is upset, no hug is permitted to help calm him or her down. It is truly ‘an institutional experience’!

How different an adult will this child grow up to be, from the one in the earlier example?

‘Common Sense’ is often defined as ‘everything we learn before the age of 16’.  Similarly, ‘everything we learn before the age of 5’ defines our ‘self-perception’, especially with respect to the society we live in, and our expectations of the ‘proper’ way to relate to it.

Thus, as the child who could expect protection and help from his/her older siblings/friends/family members – but who was equally expected to help and protect the younger ones – grows up, he or she is, on some sub-conscious level, expecting that in order to be good members of society, he/she needs to both take and give.  In return for this reciprocity, they feel needed and connected…they know how they ‘fit in’ – even if only on a deep, non-verbalized level.

Similarly, the child who grows up, from an early age, strictly as a passive recipient of instructions and who is expected to be rewarded for obedience, or ‘performing assigned tasks’ rather than actively interacting in a social give-and-take (often being severely punished for trying to establish a socially reciprocal relationship with other kids) has, at a deep, subconscious level an expectation that  they have to perform the minimum – and nothing beyond the minimum – designed tasks and that all else will be done for them.  This programming is so deep in the sub-conscious, it is not consciously perceived.  Rather, these are the ‘natural expectations’ children raised this way have.

At least, most of them do.

Which is why children raised in ‘kindergartens’ do not have the same perception of what constitutes their ‘self-worth’ as children raised in family or extended-family-type settings.  It is not that they are somehow bad or lazy:  just that from their earliest age, they were taught that reciprocity is punished and doing the minimum effort and passively accepting having all their physical needs taken care of is what society wants them to do.  And, being the social creatures we are, we get ‘primed’ this way – and it never even occurs to us that there is something to question….

To the contrary:  we see all people who behave in other ways as ‘needing to be punished’.  After all, when we tried to be different, to help others, to hug a friend, to be ourselves, to show we can do something better than everyone else around us – we were punished!  We were punished for ‘showing off’ or for ‘being bossy’ or for ‘not obeying’ or, just, for ‘not being passive’!

Is is any surprise that we have grown up into a generation which has strong feelings of entitlement – entitlement to be taken care of, to be passive recipients of care – and of great resentment towards anyone who tries to ‘show everyone up’ and succeeds?  And that we are not even aware that these are ‘programmed’ values, because they seem so ‘natural and ‘universal’ to us?

Yes, I have not expressed my meaning very eloquently, perhaps not even as accurately as I tried to.

Still, please, think about it….

Meep! MEEP!

One of the most embarrassing episodes in the history of the USA are the ‘Salem Witch Trials‘.

The very home of one of the people executed for practicing ‘witchcraft’ , Rebecca Nurse, has been turned into a museum.  It stands in today’s town of Danvers, MA, which was originally settled as ‘Salem Village’.

It seems that, once again, trouble is brewing in this quaint little town.

This time, it is not the Devil who is afflicting young people, but none other than the lovable-appearing Muppet, Beaker!

The affliction of the town’s young people – which causes them to exclaim ‘Meep!’ without provocation – has become so severe that the administrators of the Danvers High School have been forced to resort to banning the word, both written and spoken!

So, when such a posession by evil (?)  Muppet begun to sweep through the youth population (some students even said ‘Meep’ AT a teacher!), how was the school to protect the students not yet infected into channeling this spirit?  Obviously, the school had to take the strongest possible steps!  According to news reports, the school instituted a rule (clearly communicated to all parents) that any student who utters this sound ‘Meep!’, or even wears an article of clothing with the word ‘Meep!’ on it, will face expulsion from school!  Oh, and the police will be notified, too…

After all, what else could they do?  Now, even MORE young people were affected than the LAST time – and they had to resort to ‘witch trial’ and executions then!!!

Could they learn a lesson from history?

Or, perhaps, educational professionals might have some of them ‘professional educational tools’ they could employ?

…don’t be ridiculous – that would mean actually doing their job!

They did what any authority in power these days seems to think is the ‘best’ way to deal with something they don’t like:  BAN IT!!!

Of course, this hit the blogosphere pretty fast:  I read about it on Dvorak Uncensored.  They carry a quote from a lawyer who says she sent an email stating ‘Meep!’ (the address is publicly available on the school’s website, right margin) to the principal, vice principal and administrator, only to get a reply from the VP that her email has, indeed, been forwarded to the local police department….

This is serious matter:  curbing the freedom of speech of students is nothing to Tinker with!  The only circumstances – according to the US Supreme Court – that a student’s right to free speech may be abridged on public school grounds is if the ‘speech’ is ‘sexually explicit’ or if it ‘promotes the use of illegal substances’….  Of course, I am no lawyer, but, in my never-humble-opinion, the word ‘Meep!’ does not do either!

Despite the clear rules of law, the school leadership has deemed this offensive word, ‘Meep!’, to be such a danger and such a disruption, no amount of force is unjustified in getting rid of it!

Welcome to the Salem Muppet Hunt!

When I told my own kids about this situation, both my sons shouted out (simultaneously) “Reason!” and “Common Sense!”  The point being, if the teens in Danvers High switched to saying ‘Reason!’ or ‘Common Sense’ in the same manner they are now using the term ‘Meep!’, would the school ban ‘Reason!’ and ‘Common Sense!’ ?

Some clever people (sorry, I lost the link) have suggested that, perhaps, the students might stop saying ‘Meep!’, but each and every one of them could, say, accidentally drop a textbook at 10:45 each and every day…. accidents DO happen….

Personally, I think they ought to continue the behaviour, but change ‘Meep!’  sound to ‘Baaaaaaaaah!’  After all, if the school WANTS them to behave like sheep, they might as well SOUND like sheep!

Now, I did not grow up with the Muppets:  right generation, wrong continent.  But, my husband did.  And, he likes Beaker!  He has the audacity to think that Beaker, contrary to the Danvers High administrators, is not actually evil!  He asked me to send them this message (I recommend you turn the volume down – the music is seriously ‘wussy’, to the point of ‘ear-bleed-causing’, but the video does make the point):  DON’T FEAR THE BEAKER!!!

Of course, there are those conspiracy-minded folk who think that the reason that the school had banned ‘Meep!’ is because during the 2008 US Presidential election, the Muppet Show endorsed Beaker for President – against Obama-Kermit!  And that this is just political payback by Obama-Kermit cronies…  Personally, I don’t believe a word of that!  Though, if you would like adirect  confirmation that this ‘conspiracy theory’ is ludicrous, perhaps you could ask the Danvers High School principal, Thomas Murray, directly.  His email is murray@danvers.org )

All I have to say to the pedagogues of Danvers High:

TEACHER!  LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!!!!

Oh, and:  Meep! MEEP!

Hats off to John Dietsch!

A WWII hero, Mr. Dietsch proved he’s still a hero!

And, Mr. Gray is cut from the same cloth!

These veterans proved that they still ‘have it’.

Mr. John Dietsch (84 years strong) and Mr. Earl Gray (20 years his junior) had just finished counting some $10,000 in donations to their Legion (Oakridge Legion, Branch 73), raised with the Poppy Campaign.  A gunman walked in and tried to rob them.

The octogenarian vet – obviously a man who is not afraid to face evil – stood up to him, not even bothering to cower before the would-be-robber’s loaded gun.  What a man!

Simply said, the two veterans refused to be robbed.  Mr. Dietsch is quoted as saying:

“But nobody was going to get that money we had worked so hard to collect. It’s for the veterans and the widows and the community.”

And that is it, isn’t it?  It was not his money:  it was money to help the vets and the widows – his community!

To all those collectivists out there, who think that people must never act as individuals, of their own accord, because ‘the group/society/community’ has a monopoly on decision making:   see, here!  Individuals CAN work for the good of the community without sacrificing their individuality!

Two such individuals – Mr. Dietsch and Mr. Gray – refused to buckle and I, for one, salute them.

Thank you, gentlemen.

For protecting the money which will go to help those who need it and who have earned it.

And, for still being an example and role model to us!

 

‘Inifidel Blogger Awards’ are here!!!

The second annual ‘Infidel Blog Awards’ have just opened for nominations!

Stand up proud, all you thought criminals and free minds everywhere!

And, nominate your most (and least) favourite bloggers and pundits, independent thinkers enemies of censorship and oppression for recognition of their contributions!

This year, the categories are both domestic and international, so there is fun for everyone:

  1. Best Overall International Infidel Blogger
  2. Best Overall Canadian Infidel Blogger
  3. Favourite Non-Politically Correct MSM Pundit
  4. Most Despised Politically Correct MSM Pundit
  5. Favourite Apostate Blogger or MSM Pundit
  6. Blogger or Pundit most likely to be charged under Hate Crime Laws
  7. Blogger or Pundit most likely to be assasinated by Islamists
  8. Biggest Pro-Censorship Ass-Hat in the Known Universe

And just in case you were wondering who won last year – the results are here.

So, go and annoy a censor – check out, nominate and vote for your favourite free thinkers!

Via: BCF

We remember you!

Image is from the Canadian War Museum.

For more, please, read ‘The Torch’!

Segregating boys in schools will do more harm than good

A while ago, I wrote a post opposing sexual apartheid as the solution proposed to ‘fix’ our educational system.

To recap:  the ‘problem’ – as it is presented to us: there are too many female teachers, so the classrooms are geared towards ‘girl learning’ and the boys are falling by the wayside….and the proposed fix is to establish boy-only classrooms or schools, staffed preferably by male teachers, so ‘boy learning’ can take place.

On the surface of it, this sounds like a relatively reasonable solution.  One of my wisest readers/commenters, CodeSlinger, thought it might be and said so in the comments.  And, we also exchanged a few lively emails on the topic, too… because, frankly, I think segregating boys in schools will do more harm than good.

Don’t misunderstand me, please.  I agree that our education system is broken and the way it is failing is more quickly and easily visible when one looks at the ‘statistics’ of our ‘boys’…. but I think these stats are just the tip of the proverbial ice-berg.  I propose that ‘our boys’ are the ‘canaries in the mine‘ and that  moving them into a ‘canary-only tunnel’ will not help things.

Where to begin….there are so many reasons!

For the sake of the discussion (and to keep this post at least somewhat focused), let’s put aside the facts that:

  • Segregation of a specific segment of our population has never, ever, in human history, resulted in ‘a good thing’ (for the segregated segment, that is).
  • Some ‘girls’ have more ‘male’ brains and way of thinking/learning than many ‘boys’, and vice versa – and these kids would really become victims in a segregated educational system: not just of not being able to learn in the manner presented, but also through social ostracism of ‘being like the other’ which is so different, it must be segregated.  Again, boys would suffer greater damage from being considered ‘effeminate’ or ‘girlie-boys’ than girls would for being considered ‘tom-boys’.
  • A segregated system focuses on ‘gender-specific’ subjects (the expert-designed plans even boast of it),necessarily leaving out others, which denies students opportunities bef0re they are even discovered…
  • It hides the problem, instead of fixing it.
  • It is unconstitutional!  And just plain wrong, immoral and ( insert a strong derogatory word of your choice here)!

Instead of re-stating my position, I’d like to quote from an email I sent to ‘CodeSlinger’ when he – quite rightly – pointed out we must do SOMETHING to help ‘our boys’!  I wrote:

The only thing that strikes me about this is that it makes you appear a little idealistic: do you think that the very same people who have so successfully and, I think, quite intentionally marginalized boys in the integrated classrooms – and it WILL be the SAME people who will be in charge of the segregated system – do you think they will not use the opportunity the segregated system will provide them to even further damage our sons?The goal is to marginalize anyone who would have the backbone to stand up against ‘the system’. If the boys are segregated, in the name of ‘helping them’, they will be given ‘physical activity’ to help them ‘burn off their energy’, but not the skills to become educated enough to be listened to if they speak out. It will be the beginning of creating an underclass of men: either too whipped to dare stand-up, or effectively indoctrinated to think they are not competent to pay attention to anything beyond sports. It’s their nature, you see….

 

Can you see what I mean?

Do you not see how ‘segregating’ boys would be an incredibly useful way to ‘weed out’ any who have the backbone to ‘stand up’ for ‘themselves’ or for what they think is ‘right’ – to more effectively marginalize  the very people most likely to stand up to an oppressive authority?  In a society which is completely reliant on listening to ‘experts’ and pays little heed to self-taught or self-educated individuals, or people who are not academics, this would prevent any such ‘independent voices’ from being given any credence.

There has already been talk that ‘boys’ would likely ‘benefit’ if, from early on, their education were geared towards ‘trades’, because ‘boys’ are ‘better’ with ‘hands-on’ learning than ‘book learning’…

Can you not see how this would be the first step to creating an underclass?  As if my point needed further proof, one of CodeSlinger’s own links (in the comments) is to an article which sums up a Dr. Spence’s document, which he prepared for the Toronto school board to engineer these ‘all-boy-learning-environments’:

His vision document calls for a “less is more” approach to goal-setting …

How much more proof do we need that this is – whether by design or error – going to result in raising a generation of boys to be our society’s underclass?

Of course, there will be a group of boys who will be ‘protected’ from this psychological destruction:  Muslim boys. They will be the only males in our society who will be insulated from this psychological destruction from kindergarten on – and they will be the only males who will dare to speak up and affect the evolution of our society.  But, that is a different story…

Yes, our educational system is broken.

Yes, it is failing boys more than girls.

But we ought not presume that co-incidence implies causality – or, that change for the sake of change will be a good thing!  We could make things much, much worse…. and that is a gamble we cannot afford to take.  Not with our sons….

While I am a little under the weather…

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Happy Halloween!

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…and they said I couldn’t paint dogs!

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My MP’s reply to my letter

A little while ago, I wrote to my MP (Member of Parliament) with some questions and concerns regarding the CHRC (Canadian Human Rights Commission).

This afternoon, I received this reply from my MP:

Thank you for taking the time to write to me with your question. I looked into it for you, and have this information from the Ministry of Justice:

· The Canadian Human Rights Commission and Tribunal are independent agencies that administer the Canadian Human Rights Act without interference from the Government.

· The Member of Parliament from Westlock-St. Paul (Brian Storseth) brought forth a motion this Parliament asking the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights to study the Commission’s mandate, operations, and its application and interpretation of section 13.

· The Committee adopted this motion. I look forward to the committee’s study of these issues, as well as the study of Professor Moon’s report.

With respect to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal decision, Warman v. Lemire, we cannot comment as the matter is before the court.

Warman v. Lemire:

At issue is whether the hate messages prohibition in s.13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act is inconsistent with freedom of expression and other Charter rights, and whether the 1990 judgment of the Supreme Court of Canada in Taylor , which held that s.13 is constitutionally valid, should

be reconsidered as a result of the evolution of the Internet and legislative amendments.

On September 2, 2009 the Human Rights Tribunal ruled s. 13 unjustifiably infringed on the Charter, which guarantees the freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression.

Sincerely,

Pierre Poilievre, M.P. Nepean-Carleton

Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister

and to the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs

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