And while we are in the topic of cyber-trolls, Thunderf00t has seen more than his fair share:
And while we are in the topic of cyber-trolls, Thunderf00t has seen more than his fair share:
I have long held that it is simply wrong for people to have multiple citizenships and that we must put a stop to it.
In my never-humble-opinion, it is not possible for a person to be loyal to multiple countries. Sure, they may be allies now, or they may share a monarch at this time, but that does not mean they always will. If you don’t wish to pledge your loyalty exclusively Canada (and her queen), then we can do without you, thank you very much.
Canada is a great country and people from all around the world wish to move here. We should be able to select only those new immigrants who are willing to repay Canada by pledging their undivided loyalty to her!
And it does not matter what race or creed (or absence of creed) they are, as long as they are indeed willing to accept our secular laws as fully binding on them – and only if they are willing to be bound by our secular laws!
There are many Muslims who are fleeing from the political system known as Sharia: there is a big difference between Islam as a religion, and Sharia.
Sure, ‘Sharia’ is known as ‘Islamic law’ – but Sharia as such is a political and judicial system derived from Islam, the religion. And just as not all Christians are adherent to the Roman Catholic canonical interpretation of Christianity and would never wish for a return to the days when the Roman Church imposed its laws on all the poor souls trapped under its tyranny, so many Muslims do not wish to live under the yoke of Sharia. And just like we do not permit those who wish to return to the days of the Holy Inquisition to impose Christian laws on other Christians, we should not permit those who wish to live under Sharia to impose Sharia rules on other Muslims!
And one of the core tenets of Sharia is the complete rejection of secular laws in favour of forcibly imposing Sharia on all – Muslims and non-Muslims alike!
We do not permit religious laws to trump our secular laws – and we should not import immigrants who will not respect that – much less ones who openly promote the supremacy of religious laws over secular ones and intend to impose them on others.
Regardless of which religion those laws are derived from!
And, our law-enforcement agencies must not fail to protect anyone, regardless of race or creed or gender, from another person or group of persons who are breaking our secular laws. That is what rule-of-law and equality-before-the-law mean, and we must never forget it or violate these principles in the name of political correctness, for the fear of offending one special-interest group or another, or indeed in the name of ‘keeping peace’.
Because in the long term, the only peace that will be left if rule-of-law is not fully and equally implemented will be the ‘peace of oppression’.
Thanks to CAIR-CAN’s protest against this event, Gavin Boby’s talk in Ottawa tonight was well advertised – so, together with some 60-80 other Ottawans, I decided to go check it out.
And, we were not disappointed.
Though I missed the protesters outside, I spoke to others who got to see them being interviewed by CBC. I guess that a February night in Ottawa with temperatures well below -20 degrees Celsius, most outdoor protests will tend to be brief and limited to the length of the interviews…
Mr. Boby spoke for an hour or so and then took questions from the audience. I will write it all up for tomorrow, when I hope Vlad Tepes will have a teaser video up.
Let me just say that it was a very positive message of reasoned restraint and the rule of law to maintain civil society. He unequivocally condemned anger and hate as motivators. If you happen to find yourself in Montreal on Tuesday, the 5th of February, 2013 or in Toronto on Wednesday, the 6th of February 2013, it is definitely worth it to go hear Mr. Boby speak.
UPDATE: Here is Brian Lilley interviewing Gavin Boby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAmmfxs8q2Y&feature=colike
Many people think that it is a reasonable limitation on the freedom of free speech to prohibit someone from yelling ‘FIRE!’ in a crowded theatre – provided, that is, that there is no fire.
That little caveat – provided that there is no fire – is often forgotten by those who wold consider this to be a reasonable limitation of free speech. This, indeed, is not surprising – failure to recognize real warnings of danger and simply treating unpopular statements equally, whether they are true or not, is symptomatic of the individuals who most loudly profess that this limitation on the freedom of speech is somehow ‘reasonable’.
According to these people, giving a warning of a real ad present peril (like, say, a fire in a crowded theatre) is worse than letting everyone sit complacently until they burn to death.
I must admit, there was a time when I was persuaded that if there indeed were no fire, then shouting a warning of it ought not happen. OK, I still think that it ought not happen – but not because there are laws against it.
To explain my change of mind, I have to digress a little bit to some examples on utilitarian morality from philosophy. Not that I am particularly versed in philosophy – my ideas are mostly self-reasoned, but a little education has made me widen the scope of my reasoning.
There is that classical moral dilema question: if you see an uncontrollable train going down some tracks where it will hit six people, but there is a lever you can pull that will divert that train onto another set of tracks, where it will only kill one person, should you pull the lever?
Most ‘utilitarians’ will say that yes, you should, because one death is less tragic than 6 deaths.
I don’t think this is anywhere near as clear cut.
If the train stays on its original track, you (presuming the uncontrollable-ness of the train is not your fault to start off with) are not responsible for the deaths of those 6 people.
If, however, you do pull the lever, you will be the direct cause of the death of that 1 person.
People are not cogs, interchangeable for each other. We are individuals. And, if you pull that lever, you will indeed be guilty of causing the death of that individual. What is more, since you have had time to consider it, that constitutes premeditation. You would therefore be commiting murder.
This means that the question itself is improperly formulated.
Rather, it ought to ask if you could pull that lever and save the 6 people – but in the process murder 1 person, with all the legal consequences this carries, should you still pull that lever?
Because that is the real question: is saving the lives of 6 people worth murdering someone – and, perhaps, spending the rest of your life in prison as a result! After all, real actions have real consequences…
Similarly, the person who shouts ‘FIRE!” in a crowded theatre has not actually killed anyone.
It is the people who act before checking whether their actions are based on fact or not, and those who put their lives above others by trampling them to death to save themselves, who are guilty of, well, the trampling. Not the person who – rightly or wrongly – shouts ‘Fire!’
It is always the tramplers who are the ones guilty of the trampling.
But, because there are many of them, and our moral compass has for too long been corrupted by the profoundly immoral Judeo-Christian doctrine of ‘scapegoating’, of ‘vicarious redemption’, that we are willing to put the blame of the many ‘tramplers’ onto the one who may not, indeed, have done any ‘trampling’ at all!
It is precisely this predisposition we have of shifting the blame for the actions of the individuals who actually carry them out onto a scapegoat who is said to have ’caused’ their bad or immoral behaviour that is going to be the downfall of our society!
It is precisely this scapegoating which is at the heart of political correctness and the erosion of the freedoms which we ought to be able to exercise unfettered.
How have we improved our lot if we have liberated ourselves from Christian religious dogmas, if we permit its worst shackles to still imprison our morality, albeit under the new name of ‘political correctnes’?
So, now, I agree with Christopher Hitchens on this point:
Idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIoVBpjUJPc&feature=colike
I agree with Raheel Raza: it is time to stop being politically correct and to be tolerant of intolerance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzlncqY38d4&feature=colike