Pat Condell: ‘God or Nothing’

It keeps baffling me just how many people are either unable or unwilling to grasp the difference between ‘not believing something’ and ‘believing in something else’.

A non-deity centered example of this would be, say, the question:  do you believe that my mother has ‘naturally blond hair’?

Never having met my mother – and therefore not holding an opinion on the topic of her hair colour – seems the most obvious and logical position.

Yet, to have some people explain it, not having any opinion on the topic either way somehow implies a belief that her hair is NOT naturally blond – or even that it is ‘naturally red’!

Like Pat Condell, I find the suggestion that a ‘belief’ should be treated with respect similar to or greater than ‘fact-based reality’ actively offensive!  Whether that belief is religious or secular, it is a belief – a notion (perhaps deeply held, but a notion none-the-less).  It must never be afforded the level of respect that the anti-blasphemy movements demand.

No, I will not deny them the right to believe whatever they want to.  It is their right to believe whatever they wish.

But it is NOT their right to demand that I, you, or anyone else respects their beliefs and goes around pretending that just because they believe something, we must all behave as it it were true!

Yet that is exactly what the UN’s new anti-blasphemy laws demand…

Now, couple the religious beliefs with political ambitions and you have a recipe for oppression – of the worst kind.

 

 

…and from ‘Hacker News’

“While working as developer in Canada, Saeed designed a program that would allow his clients to upload pictures, and as is a common courtesy in programming, included his name and info in the file. This program, Saeed’s wife – Dr. Fatimeh Eftekhari – explains, was used in an adult content website WITHOUT Saeed’s knowledge or approval. “The only recognizable name in the program was Saeed’s,” she continued, “which led to his arrest” and to the accusations claiming that Saeed was responsible for the development and administration of the website.” from http://united4iran.org/2010/10/the-case-of-saeed-malekpour-web-developer-jailed-since-2008/

Read it here

From the department of: ‘this would be funny if it were not true…’

Dvorak Uncensored and Ezra Levant say it so well…

Photos from Watson/McGuinty protest rally on September 18th, 2010

(Updated to include a video link)

Today, there was a protest at Jim Watson’s election office. I was there, taking photos.

(And, yes – they even let me say a few words….but I was so nervous, having NEVER spoken in public before, I covered barely a quarter of the stuff I prepared.  Some people took videos – I’ll post them when I see them.) As always,  the ladies organizing the rally were there (and I DO use the term ‘ladies’ in the best sense).

Debbie Jodoin:

Shirley Mosley used puppets to illustrate how Mr. McGuinty’s puppet, Mr. Watson, hippety-hoppeties from Municipal to Provincial to Municipal politics:

Mr. Nick Vandergraght was a crowd favourite:

As was Sharon, also from CFRA:

Ruth Parent, a behind-the-scenes helper to Debbie and Shirley during these protests also said a few words:

And, ‘Debbie’s sound guy’ – who has a YouTube channel called ‘TheUnsustainableTaxpayer’ where he uploads the videos from the protest, also spoke passionately:  

Despite technical difficulties, Sam also spoke:

A very pleasant surprise was that ‘Calculus’ (as he is known on this blog) came and said hello (our first real-life meeting ever): Suzanne from BigBlueWave also said hi to me:  when her video is up, I’ll post it! And, of course, there were many ‘disgruntled citizens’, exercising their freedom:

As usual, if you want any of these (or of the 200 or so other pictures I took) in higher resolution, comment and I will contact you with the pictures requested.

The videos will be posted as they come online.

Binks is back – but others are still endangered

This is a blogger’s nightmare:  an anonymous, uninformative letter tells you ‘somebody’ complained about ‘something’ on your blog, so your provider froze it and locked you out….

No info on what the offending material was…

No means to remove it…

It’s a blogging version of that creek and lack of paddles…

Luckily, Binks is back!

Read about his struggle – and the still ongoing battle others are engaged in.  It is informative.  There are whole companies ‘out there’ making a living by harassing bloggers…

(FYI – This is why most bloggers start out anonymously.   Unlike journalists, we do not have any employer to shield us from harassment, lawfare, or worse.  Only after a blogger develops a regular readership and the online support network that goes with it do we dare reveal our real-life names.)

H/T:  BCF

A letter from Afghanistan to Dalton McGuinty’s EA

First of all, I would like to thank this soldier – both for what he is doing for all of us in Afghanistan, putting himself in danger tto keep us and our kids are safe, and for taking time to write to Dalton McGuinty’s EA and asking for an explanation of how ‘freedom of speech and assembly’ became ‘privileges’.

Now, to explain…

There has been a series of recent protests against Dalton McGuinty, the Premier of Ontario, organized by two Ottawa taxpayers, Debbie Jodoin and Shirley Mosley.  Ms. Jodoin is so upset with Mr. McGuinty’s policies, she has decided to seek a nomination for the Conservative Party to run against Mr. McGuinty, in his riding, during next year’s Provincial election.

The protests have attracted some attention – and Mr. McGuinty’s ‘office’ began subtle intimidation tactics against the demonstration organizers, especially Ms. Jodoin.  This culminated in a letter Mr. McGuinty’s Exacutive Assistant, John Fraser, had written and emailed to Ms. Jodoin.

Not only did Mr. Fraser see fit to email it to Ms. Jodoin at work, he also emailed it to each and every one of her co-workers – and her boss.  In the email, Mr. Fraser admonishes Ms. Jodoin not to forget to obey the laws….  Yeah, employer’s just LOVE to get emails addressed to their employees which imply that without a ‘friendly reminder’ from the office of the Premier, this employee could not be counted on to obey the law of the land!

If the intimidation were not enough, Mr. Fraser’s letter (officially sent as coming from the Premier’s office) also included the following phrase:

“I think we can agree that free speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege and a cornerstone of our democracy.”

With Ms. Jodoin’s permission, I posted the full letter, along with the context (Mr. Fraser thought it necessary to come up to Ms. Jodoin just prior to the demonstration and ensure she agrees to follow the laws – the Ottawa Police were there in force, and even brought along a paddy-vagon…you know, just in case!)

Well, a few other blogs picked up on this, thanks to a great deal to MooseAnd Squirrel, BlazingCatfur and all the rest of the bloggers who picked up the story.  The story made it around the world.  Yesterday, BlazingCatfur posted a letter which a soldier, serving in Afghanistan as a member of Canadian Armed Forces, had sent to Mr. Fraser in response to the Jodoin letter.

He writes:

“One can not even imagine the sheer delight, as I try in many ways to convey to my troops that free speech and the right to assemble are a privilege.”

Read the full letter here.

And, if I ever have the honour to shake this person’s hand, the beverages will be on me!

Dalton McGuinty’s office: ‘Freedom of Speech’ is a PRIVILEGE!

This is an email sent by Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty’s EA to Debbie Jodoin, one of the organizers of the Ottawa anti-Eco-Tax (Eco-fees) protests.  Not only was it sent to her, but also to all her co-workers and her employer…

From: Fraser_John <jfraser@liberal.ola.org>
To: Clarke, Rob – M.P.
Cc: Clarke, Rob – Assistant 1; Clarke, Rob – Assistant 2; Clarke, Rob – Assistant 3
Sent: Fri Aug 27 15:12:22 2010
Subject: Attention Debbie Jodoin – My apologies if anyone receives this email in error.

Ms. Jodoin ,
It has been brought to my attention that you are organizing a rally/protest outside our constituency office tomorrow. I think we can agree that free speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege and a cornerstone of our democracy. I am sending you this note to ensure you aware of the concerns of our neighbours.

As the organizer of the rally/protest I am sure that you have made arrangements to ensure a safe event for everyone involved. I do want to encourage you and the citizens participating in your rally/protest to have respect for our neighbours at the Kilborn Plaza. Our neighbours are small business owners who depend on parking and easy access for their customers, many of whom are seniors.

Out of respect for our neighbours, I would ask that you urge the participants to:

  • Avoid using the parking directly in the lane directly in front of the store fronts. There is parking on the side and back of the mall that is easily accessed.
  • Understand the mall’s businesses depend on a smooth flow on both the sidewalk and lane directly in front of the stores.
  • Ensure that the entrances to the mall are not blocked so the mall’s customers can have easy access to parking.


Thank you in advance for your consideration.

John Fraser
Executive Assistant
Office of Dalton McGuinty, MPP

Yes, the official communication from Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty states, clearly and unequivocally – and expect us to agree – that:

I think we can agree that free speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege and a cornerstone of our democracy.

No, Mr. Fraser!

No, Mr. McGuinty!

WE WILL NEVER PERMIT YOU TO TREAT OUR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AS ‘PRIVILEGES’!

Dalton McGuinty’s EA attempts to intimidate Debbie Jodoin

Saturday, August 28th 2010, there was a rally in front of Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty’s constituency office in Ottawa to protest the crushing tax burden, the illegal eco-taxes (which the McGuinty’s Liberals have partially pulled and are re-thinking, finding another way to impose them which could not be as blatantly unconstitutional).  The pictures from this protest are here and here (coming).

This is the third protest in the series organized by Debbie Jodoin and Shirley Mosely – two feisty ladies who are simply fed up with the contempt with which the Ontario government is treating us, Ontarians. In fact, Debbie Jodoin is so fed up, she has decided to seek the nomination by the Conservative Party of Ontario to run against Premier Dalton McGuinty ( in his riding) during the next Provincial election!

Debbie and Shirley have taken out all the proper permits for each and every one of the three demonstrations (and I expect the pattern to follow for the next protest, which will be held at Jim Watson’s office on September 18th, 12 noon to 2 p.m.).  There was no problem at either of the first two protest rallies – with the police (who had a presence at the first protest, 2 squad cars with 2 cops each – watching and making sure we did not block traffic or break any other rules, but who were absolutely invisible at the second protest – the one where an MPP and the media cameras were present) or with the businesses.

At this third protest rally, there was a police presence.  Not only were there 2 squad cars (with two cops apiece), there was also a police paddy-wagon!

I suppose all of us regular citizens protesting the illegal taxation the McGuinty Liberals are imposing on us  are likely to be in need of being dragged off by the police!

But, that is not all.

Debbie Jodoin – and each and every one of her co-workers, including her employer – received an intimidating letter in the vein of the A. Houle letter to Ann Coulter before her speech at Ottawa University!

In a private email to me, Debbie Jodoin has described (she was in a rush – she is going out of town on a business trip)  the concerns leading up to the protest:

“It was Dalton EA that sent the email message . Point is we had our first ECO TAX rally there a few weeks back with 500 people and the police and businesses there had no complaints . Point is we always get a city permit and they have the instructions on it and I will send it to you via email as well.

One business even let us use his washroom! I took it upon myself to phone this gentleman and thank him and once again ask for use of his washroom and perhaps give him 25 dollars for some electricity to run our sound systemThe gentleman had no problem that I believe was on a Tuesday with the call coming from my workplace on my lunch hour.

On Friday morning this business owner phoned my work and told the staff that we could use his washrooms but could not use any power as he did not want to get involved in this.In this ! one now asks why would he say that, until I recieved the email that was sent to me and all my co-workers at our place or work to give me instructions on how to behave there etc through his email.

So now the scenario fits ..Mr Fraser the EA took it upon himself to speak to all these businesses or I should assume he did to ask them how concerned they were about another rally gearing up outside their business and stirred the pot . This is typical of Dalton and the gang.

Brendan McGuinty was not there …the first Rally DAVID McGuinty sat in his car and watched the rally ..then they had David Suzki write and article on how wrong we are to fight the ECO TAX.. 2nd rally at Chiarelli’s office we had a call the friday before from a MP ;s office in the same bldg of Chiarellies that was being called and asked us to show respect to the businesses in the mall and not to block there business.And then whamo we get this phone call and email from McGunity’s office.”


So, what was in this email?  The email that was sent to Debbie Jodoin, each and every one of her co-workers as well as her employer?

Here is the full wording of the email:

From: Fraser_John <jfraser@liberal.ola.org>
To: Clarke, Rob – M.P.
Cc: Clarke, Rob – Assistant 1; Clarke, Rob – Assistant 2; Clarke, Rob – Assistant 3
Sent: Fri Aug 27 15:12:22 2010
Subject: Attention Debbie Jodoin – My apologies if anyone receives this email in error.

Ms. Jodoin ,
It has been brought to my attention that you are organizing a rally/protest outside our constituency office tomorrow. I think we can agree that free speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege and a cornerstone of our democracy. I am sending you this note to ensure you aware of the concerns of our neighbours.

As the organizer of the rally/protest I am sure that you have made arrangements to ensure a safe event for everyone involved. I do want to encourage you and the citizens participating in your rally/protest to have respect for our neighbours at the Kilborn Plaza. Our neighbours are small business owners who depend on parking and easy access for their customers, many of whom are seniors.

Out of respect for our neighbours, I would ask that you urge the participants to:

  • Avoid using the parking directly in the lane directly in front of the store fronts. There is parking on the side and back of the mall that is easily accessed.
  • Understand the mall’s businesses depend on a smooth flow on both the sidewalk and lane directly in front of the stores.
  • Ensure that the entrances to the mall are not blocked so the mall’s customers can have easy access to parking.

Thank you in advance for your consideration.John Fraser
Executive Assistant
Office of Dalton McGuinty, MPP

All the rules and conditions that the protesters have to abide by are listed on the City of Ottawa permit, which Debbie had taken out for the protest.  Therefore, she is quite familiar with them.

So, why should Dalton McGuinty’s EA take it upon himself to remind her of these?

This is between Ms. Jodoin and the City of Ottawa – who granted her the permit.  The Provincial government has absolutely no jurisdiction in this.  Yet, Dalton McGuinty’s EA had taken it upon himself to remind Ms. Jodoin (who is about to challenge Mr. McGuinty for his seat) as well as her employer and her co-workers of all this!

Add to this the fact that one of the merchants in the strip mall actually felt intimidated enough to not want to ‘get involved in this’ – and you will begin to get a picture  how these crooks work!

Just prior to the protest, this video captures an exchange between Ms. Jodoin and a man whom I presume to be Mr. Fraser:

But, perhaps THE most important phrase in that letter is:

“I think we can agree that free speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege …”

No, Mr. Fraser, we cannot agree that freedom of speech and the right to assemble are both a privilege!

NOT AT ALL!

These are fundamental rights and freedoms, inherent to each human being and so recognized in our Constitution!

Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly ARE NOT PRIVILEGES!

The very fact that you think so – and that you seem to expect that we will agree – shows to us the depth of depravity that the McGuintyLiberal government has sunk to!

Shame on you all!

A look at Sharia as the parallel legal system in Indonesia

Sharia is the Islamic law based on a very particular interpretation of the Koran and Hadith, developed by Islamic scholars and codified in more or less the current form by about the 1200’s.

Many people suggest that Sharia ought to be introduced into Western countries, to be used as a parallel legal system.  The idea is that ‘regular’, State-run and State-regulated courts would be available to Muslims, but, they would also have the option of choosing to have their cases heard by Sharia courts.  Once this choice is made, the Sharia rulings would then be legally binding.

Britain, for example, had instituted Sharia courts as a parallel legal system since 2008.

Elena Kegan, soon to be sworn as the 112th justice to the  US Supreme Court, also actively promotes this idea.  This anti-free-speech activist has been responsible for the inclusion of Sharia in the constitution of several countries, including Pakistan, and appears to think the USA would also benefit from a parallel Sharia legal system.  She herself has worked hard to built the institutions of Sharia banking, through which money can be channeled to finance violent jihad.

In my never-humble-opinion, multiple legal systems which divide the population along ethnic, cultural of religious lines are not only immoral, they are highly destructive to the social fabric of a country.  The moment there are different laws for different segments of society, perceptions of unfair benefits/inequalities will always exist.  These will serve to tribalize a society – and be a tool through which governments can manipulate the populace.

The old ‘divide and conquerer’ thing.

The only way all citizens can truly be equal in the eyes of the law is if there is one set of laws which applies to everyone equally.

This seems so straight forward and logical to me that I have difficulty understanding how some people simply seem unable to grasp these facts – even before we even talk about the implications of replacing civil authority by a specific segment of the population and replacing it with a religious authority.

Which leaves the question:  am I over-reacting?  Would a society with Sharia as a parallel legal system be better than the one we have now?

Perhaps looking at examples of how its working out in some country where this situation exists might help show us how a religious parallel legal system  impacts society.

Malaysia neighbours Indonesia – a country with the world’s largest Muslim population.  And, even though only 60% of Malaysia’s 28 million inhabitants are Muslim, Islam permeates its life.  Its legal system used to be solely based on the British civil code, until Sharia was introduced as a parallel legal system for Muslims.

This is exactly what proponents of a parallel Sharia system in the West are advocating – so let us look at a few, real-life examples of how this is working out in Malaysia:

Child marriage

The age of consent for girls/women to  enter into marriage in Malaysia is 16 years of age.  This, however, is at odds with Sharia, which places no minimum age on marriage for females.  In order to become Sharia-compliant, this minimum age will now no longer be binding on Muslims, provided the father/guardian approves the marriage.

Sharia permits child prostitution – as long as the clergy gets its cut.  This accommodation to Sharia strips each and every female child born to a Muslim family of any legal protection from being forcibly married or forced into child prostitution…

Personally, I do not think this is a positive thing.

Flogging of Muslims for alcohol consumption

In Malaysia, alcohol consumption is not illegal.  It is legally sold, and available in places like, say, night clubs, where anyone may legally purchase and drink alcohol.  Unless, of course, one is a Muslim.

Because Sharia forbids the consumption of alcohol, any Muslim caught consuming this legal substance will be handed over to Sharia courts for punishment.  The linked story documents a case of one Muslim woman who was caned for drinking a beer at a night club.

OK – perhaps alcohol consumption is not as cherished a thing as our core human rights.  Granted.

But, that is not the point – the ‘subject’ of the religion-selective-behaviour is less important than the division itself.  On a practical level – how does one go about policing a society where what is legal for one citizen will result in the caning of another? You cannot tell what a person’s religious beliefs are by simply looking at them!

Just consider the every-day implications for existing in a society that needs to ascertain each individual citizens’ beliefs at every step of policing….

The next few stories require a little introduction to Sharia for those not already familiar with it.

Officially, there is freedom of religion in Malaysia:  this is guaranteed by Article 11 of the Malaysian Constitution.

Thus, a person born to Christian or Hindu or Taoist or Sikh (or one of the many other religions officially practiced there) parents is permitted to practice that faith.  To this end, the religion to which a person has been born is officially recorded in their citizenship record and appears in their passport as well as all government-issued documents.  Should one choose to convert from the religion to which one was born, there is a mechanism through which one can petition to have one’s religion officially changed.

Now, here is an interesting point to Sharia:  if a Muslim is living in a country which does NOT recognize Sharia as any form of a legal system, the Koran directs that the secular laws of the land must be followed.  However, if a country recognizes Sharia in any kind of a legal or semi-legal form, all Muslims are bound to

Among other things, Sharia states that a non-Muslim may not be in a position of authority over a Muslim.  Therefore, to be Sharia-compliant, a Muslim may not work for a non-Muslim; a Muslim may not accept a binding ruling by a non-Muslim (if a Sharia court is available, effectively making Sharia mandatory for all Muslims where Sharia courts are recognized).

This also means that a Muslim woman may not be married to a non-Muslim man:  according to Sharia, a husband is in a position of authority over his wife.  Therefore, a non-Muslim man may not be the husband of (and thus in a position of authority over) a Muslim woman.  It also means that non-Muslim parents are not permitted to raise a child perceived to be Muslim.

Sharia courts split inter-faith marriages, forcibly remove children

There are numerous cases where, after Sharia was implemented, families had been forcibly split up.

The first well-known case was that of 21-year-long marriage between a Muslim woman and a Hindu man – and with 6 children’s lives to consider – being ruled illegal because the husband did not convert to Islam.  The woman was taken away for Islamic ‘re-education’ for an indeterminate period of time:  until she re-embraces Islam.

Here is a case where a woman born to Muslim parents married a Hindu man and attempted to officially change her religious status to reflect her conversion to Hinduism.  Sharia courts still had jurisdiction over her, imprisoned her until she recants her conversion away from Islam and denied the father custody of their child, placing her with Muslim relatives instead.

Under Sharia, divorce rules strongly favour the husband, both when it comes to marital property and custody of children.

Here is a case of a Hindu couple, wed in a Hindu ceremony and subject to civil law, took a surreal turn.  The husband had officially converted to Islam – then, as a Muslim, he sought divorce under Sharia.  The wife remained Hindu and while she did not oppose the divorce, she wanted the case heard in civil courts – as was her right.

She lost.  As the husband is a Muslim, Sharia takes precedence….

Barring conversion after marriage – could the Muslim women who wished to marry non-Muslim men have prevented the legal problems under Sharia?

Well, that is another problem:  because Sharia has supremacy over Muslims, the civil courts do not have the jurisdiction to record the religious conversion of any person who is officially registered as ‘Muslim’.  To record a conversion away from Islam, a person must petition the Sharia courts to make the required administrative changes.

Except that…

Sharia does not permit conversion from Islam to another religion!

The penalty for even wanting to convert is severe:  from death to caning and imprisonment until one ‘chooses’ to re-embrace Islam.

Here is a case of a Muslim woman who wanted to convert to Christianity.

And then there is the case of Rani:

Rani born to a Muslim mother but since a sixteenth day old baby was adopted and brought up as a Hindu by a Hindu family. Rani practices Hinduism and wants to live and die as a Hindu . But the UMNO Jabatan Agama Islam stormed into her house and her husband Muniandy that very same night was forcibly circumcised. Muniandy was earlier threatened with a six year jail sentence if he did not convert to Islam. Now after thirty years later Rani’s daughter Vijiyaletchumi and Sasikala ( who is now 6 months pregnant ) are now suffering the very same predicament her mother Rani faced some thirty years ago because their identity cards carries a Muslim name although she practices Hinduism and has never practiced Islam.

I wonder if this is what the proponents of introducing Sharia here want our society to be like.

Update:  Sorry, but I forgot to include this story of a young woman who was born and raised a Hindu.  When she was 7 years old, she spent time in an orphanage run by Muslim workers.  While she was in their care, they officially changed her religious status from ‘Hindu’ to ‘Muslim’.  An adult now, she hopes to marry a Hindu man and wishes to live as a Hindu, the religion she was raised in.  Unfortunately, she is not permitted to marry a non-Muslim, as a Muslim she is under the jurisdiction of Sharia courts, and Sharia courts do not permit her to leave Islam, even if her ‘conversion’ was not her choice and considers herself a Hindu.

Photos from August 7th anti-eco-tax protest in Ottawa part 3: who was there

Yesterday, August 7th, there was a protest against Ontario’s illegal eco-taxes.  I have posted photos from it here and here.  These are some more photos from there, along with a bit more commentary.

The protest was held outside of the Ottawa constituency office of Bob Chiarelli, the Communications Minister in Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty’s government.

Aside from the speakers, whom you can see in part 1, there were other politician and/or would-be politicians.  Even a fellow blogger Blake Batson, was also there – hopefully, he’ll blog his impressions from the protest.

The Ottawa municipal elections are coming this October.  The current front-runner in the race for Mayor is Jim Watson:  a former mayor of Ottawa, who left to join Dalton McGuinty in Queen’s Park just prior to the ‘amalgamation’, where the malaise which had infected tho ‘old’ City of Ottawa under Watson’s reign was imposed on all the neighbouring municipalities as they were gobbled up into one entity.  Now that Bob Chiarelli became unelectable as Ottawa’s mayor, bodymaster McGuinty has swapped Bob and Jim’s roles…  This has certainly

not gone unnoticed, as Shirley Mosley clearly pointed out.

It had also brought out a number of candidates running for City of Ottawa Council in the upcoming elections.  (For ease of reference, here is the official list of all the declared candidates.)

This young man (right) with CFRA’s Rob Snow (left) is Leslie Saintilma, a very pleasant and intelligent guy (at least, that was the impression he left me with from the few minutes we chatted) who is running in Ward 10, Gloucester Southgate.

Interestingly enough, Ward 10, Gloucester Southgate, was represented by not one, but two candidates.  I did not get to chat with Wade Wallace (he was busy helping with Lisa McLeod’s volunteers), but I did snap a pic of him as he was being interviewed by Rogers, the local community channel:

Ward 7, better known as simply Bay Ward, was represented by the very pleasant GJ Hagenaars – whose wife and really cute young son also came (though the pic I took of them did not turn out – sorry).

It is likely I have missed some candidates who were there.  If I did, please, let me know and I’ll update the post with the info!

Still, the municipal candidates were not the only ones there!  Here, Ade Olumide, chair of OTAG (Ottawa Taxpayers’ Advocacy Group) can be seen talking to the gold-expert John Button (OK – I only got a bit of the back of Mr. Button’s head…).

Here is a better picture of John Button, as he was speaking.

Here is a shot of MPP Lisa McLeod, as she is being interviewed.

Talking about Lisa McLeod….  She did something I quite liked.

As is the case with many  ‘watermelons’ (green on the outside, red on the inside) who avoid discussing the merit of initiatives by resorting to ad hominem attacks on their critics, Dalton McGuinty attacked (or, in this case, got Dr. David Suzuki to attack) Lisa McLeod.  Ms. McLeod told the audience about the attack in a story in a newspaper (I didn’t catch the name of which one) which stated that her opposition to the illegal eco taxes meant that she was not ‘eco-friendly’.

Ms. McLeod turned that to her advantage, because sometimes, opposing illegal taxes only means one opposes illegal taxed (my wording). And, she proved it!  She brought a re-usable eco-friendly shopping bag (with her name emblazoned on it) for each and every one there!  As she spoke, a wave of volunteers began handing them out!

There were also some people wearing Lisa McLeod t-shirts who were collecting signatures on a petition against those hated eco-taxes:  apparently, they collected over 350 signatures on the petition at this one protest alone!

And the protest did have impact.  Not only had many more news people showed up for this one (as opposed to the July one)  here are a few people who were walking by and stopped to find out about the protest.

From the young:

to vets (left):

people of all walks of life had a  message for Dalton McGuinty and his government:

OK – here are some more shots:

Debbie and Shirley are planning the NEXT protest for August 28th 2010 at Dalton McGuinty’s Ottawa constituency office.  If you don’t like being taxed to death – legally and illegally – I’ll see you there!

UPDATE:  Blake Batson at PerspectivesOttawa has also posted photos from the protest – in the background of one of them is little old me!